Will Trump be impeached?

[Docscurlock]

I say shut the whole thing down and let America decide in November

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[GT Pony]

You would just impeach everyone.

Only the ones who have done wrong doings and broke their oath of office. Does anyone even have any respect for rules, laws and the documentation of how our government is supposed to be ran per the Constitution.

Welcome Pres Mt. Dew Camacho !!

 

[GT Pony]

I don't think impeachment was meant for trivial BS. It was meant for things like treason. It would be a whole lot better to let the elections work the way they are supposed too.

Again ... more misunderstanding of what the Constitution was written for. Would you allow a Dem to keep running for office when he's using corruption to help himself get re-elected? Really ... would you allow that?

 

[Docscurlock]

Came back to this. So you don't think Trump is a "rich self important snot and proven liar" ... wow, OK. Pot meet Kettle.

And you're OK with someone doing a good job running the country even if he's been charged with being corrupt and breaking his oath of office? Yeah, I get that ... but I also get that the Constitution was written for this country to operate by for a reason.

This is starting to be tedious. I DO NOT CARE what he does besides running the country outside of serious crimes. We have been over this too, he has been charged (by people I think are corrupt) and NOT FOUND GUILTY of anything YET. Until then it is a freakin moot point.

BTW ... on the Obstruction of Congress impeachment charge. If you do more research (and it's been talked about in this thread already), you will see that the House has complete authority to request information from the executive branch for their investigation of wrong doing, that includes sending out subpoenas. Since Trump did a 100% stonewall, then he as obstructed Congress (the House) from doing their job. These rules are part of the separation of power. The executive branch can not put up walls and operate independently of the other two branches. Watch your gov't lesson cartoons again, lol.

Nixon did similar stonewalling, but not 100% like Trump. Nixon also got charged with Obstruction of Congress.

This is for the COURTS TO DECIDE, not Congress. If they would have given the courts time to hear the case, the courts would have compelled these guys to testify or not. If the courts said testify and they refused to do so that is OBSTRUCTION. Until I am forced to do something through a court order I haven't obstructed anything.

"The executive branch can not put up walls and operate independently of the other two branches."
Yes he can until he is compelled by the legislative branch to do otherwise. There are 3 coequal branches of government in the US. The House can go pound sand until the courts compel the Executive branch to do otherwise. The separation of powers works both ways, look up "Executive Priviledge" which Obama wielded so handily.

 

[Docscurlock]

Again ... more misunderstanding of what the Constitution was written for. Would you allow a Dem to keep running for office when he's using corruption to help himself get re-elected? Really ... would you allow that?

No one has disqualified Joe Biden yet

 

[Docscurlock]

Only the ones who have done wrong doings and broke their oath of office. Does anyone even have any respect for rules, laws and the documentation of how our government is supposed to be ran per the Constitution.

Welcome Pres Mt. Dew Camacho !!

This country is heading that way quickly

 

[GT Pony]

I say shut the whole thing down and let America decide in November

Do you think an election would be fair when the POTUS is trying to involve a foreign country into helping him win again? Anyone who thinks that really isn't an American, but a non-Patriot traitor. If Obama was doing stuff like that the Reps would be doing the same thing as the Dems are now.

And people who what the country to be ran differently than the Constitution should probably move to an already corrupt county.

 

[GT Pony]

Only the ones who have done wrong doings and broke their oath of office. Does anyone even have any respect for rules, laws and the documentation of how our government is supposed to be ran per the Constitution.

Welcome Pres Mt. Dew Camacho !!

This country is heading that way quickly

But you still think it's OK for Trump to not be called out for doing something against the Constitution? Humm ... think about that one.

 

[GT Pony]

Wrong Booma ... you're weak attempt at slander. Not unexpected as you know. Have you tried that little connect the dots puzzle I gave you? Snuggle up with your Trumpy Bear and have some fun.

 

[Docscurlock]

Do you think an election would be fair when the POTUS is trying to involve a foreign country into helping him win again? Anyone who thinks that really isn't an American, but a non-Patriot traitor. If Obama was doing stuff like that the Reps would be doing the same thing as the Dems are now.

And people who what the country to be ran differently than the Constitution should probably move to an already corrupt county.

If there were actual evidence that he did that I would worry about it. The dems spent 2 years saying there was absolute proof that Trump colluded with Russia, they have yet to provide any proof at all. They spent several weeks recently saying there is irrefutable evidence that Trump tried to extort Ukraine, they have yet to provide any real proof besides a lot of opinions and heresay. There is some speculation that the Hillary campaign hired Christopher Steele (British National) through FusionGPS to dig up dirt on Trump and this info was used to falsely apply for a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. But have I been arguing that Hillary should be thrown in jail for this? No.

Again, THE ONLY EVIDENCE IS SPARSE AND MOSTLY HERESAY evidence from people that are definitely biased. Show me some real evidence from a real person or just let it be. I don't need to hear from anymore 3rd party witnesses to make up my mind, the House had it's chance to present REAL EVIDENCE in a FAIRMINDED WAY to convince the American people Trump needs to be impeached and they failed miserably. Only people that made up their minds before facts were presented still think the country should be going through this. If America thinks he should be impeached, they will show up In droves to oust him in November.

 

[GT Pony]

This is for the COURTS TO DECIDE, not Congress. If they would have given the courts time to hear the case, the courts would have compelled these guys to testify or not. If the courts said testify and they refused to do so that is OBSTRUCTION. Until I am forced to do something through a court order I haven't obstructed anything.

"The executive branch can not put up walls and operate independently of the other two branches."
Yes he can until he is compelled by the legislative branch to do otherwise. There are 3 coequal branches of government in the US. The House can go pound sand until the courts compel the Executive branch to do otherwise. The separation of powers works both ways, look up "Executive Priviledge" which Obama wielded so handily.

The only time the executive branch has the right to resit the requests of an investigation is shown below. It's only for the courts to decide if the executive branch ignoring the requested subpoenas and other information is a illegal move or not. Congress (the House) can charge the article of Obstruction of Congress any time they feel they are being obstructed, which they have done.

So what "government functions" would have been impairs if Trump would have honored those subpoenas and request for documents? Let me guess ... his coverup perhaps?

Executive privilege is the right of the president of the United States and other members of the executive branch to maintain confidential communications under certain circumstances within the executive branch and to resist some subpoenas and other oversight by the legislative and judicial branches of government in pursuit of particular information or personnel relating to those confidential communications. The right comes into effect when revealing information would impair governmental functions.

 

[GT Pony]

Only from the Trump Train - wouldn't expect anything else ...

 

[Docscurlock]

Let me guess

There you go, you made my argument for me again. when you are no longer guessing and have proof from somewhere we can talk again.

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