"Mustang Mach E" Confirmed, Reservations Begin Immediately After Nov 17 Live-Streamed Reveal

[Bikeman315]

Built in Mexico eh? I guess that explains the giant mustache at the front.

What was ford thinking?

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[Ericc B]

Thanks. Now I can't unsee that...

LOL, join the club

 

[Bikeman315]

Yep, the *last* thing I want in my car is a giant screen that forces me to take my eyes off the road just to change the temperature. Stupid,

No one is forcing you, that's why we have voice commands. Supposedly these will be vastly improved in Sync 4.

Proof of point. I used to turn my cellphone on, go to the phone app and hit my wife's contact. Now i just say "hello Siri, call my wife".

 

[shogun32]

> Instead, they visualized a forward-looking, tech-positive progressive with a "growth mindset."
Where do they come up with such drivel?

> A trip to China revealed that customers wanted a larger touch screen,
> so the team developed a 15.5-inch monitor with a specially designed knob at the bottom.

Yeah that won't change the stereotype of Asian drivers... There is zero room for yet another, let alone American EV in China. That market is saturated. And anyhow they'll rip off anything Ford produces and sell it for half, out the back door.

> "It's Silicon Valley meets Route 66," Castriota said.
The sooner Silly-con Valley finds itself at the bottom of the ocean, the better for humankind.

> said Ted Cannis, Ford's global head of electrification. "We're set up for glory."
Now that is going to bite them hard in the kiester. Ford has decades of failure to deliver and shoddy products. They need to retool their workforce, plant, suppliers, and especially QA 'bigly'.

ref: https://www.autonews.com/design/how-fords-mustang-mach-e-came-be

And OTA software updates? Given how they can't manage to do Sync3 updates without a voodoo witch doctor in attendance, and Detroit's pathological ineptitude in computer security, I wager we'll have plenty of bricked cars and entertainment systems. Not to mention a free-for-all in on-the-road hijacking of vehicles. SIGN. ME. UP!

 

[Bikeman315]

I don't see anyone talking about how Tesla, as a business model is a total failure. They haven't made a profit yet...and you want me to believe its a good thing for Ford to follow that type of business model? And doing so while wrecking an iconic name...I buy base cars for a simple reason, I don't need all that tech, I rarely even tune into a radio station in a car where the exhaust sounds better than almost anything else I can think of. Electric cars are heartless, they take away the very reason why I love my Mustang so much.

Ford is not implementing Tesla's business model. Neither is GM, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, etc., etc. They are just building alternative fuel motor vehicles.

 

[shogun32]

Stang Bangin'...The StangLyfe. Means nothing now.

was that ever a 'thing'? Hardly Ableson does, sure...

 

[Topnotch]

Carbon Wheels...wish list

 

[Bikeman315]

Yeah, in time. This way I can bring my GT/CS and my wife's Mach-E. Should be fun!

 

[Hack]

One could say that you have binders on. Why do you think it will not be a pretty decent vehicle? I've owned ford's for decades as have many people on this forum. Wouldn't it make sense that we believe the company we have been giving our hard earned dollars too is going to make a pretty decent vehicle. Just remember the engineers and designers that build this vehicle didn't name it. We need t separate the two and thrust or anger on the Exec's that made this decision.

Pretty sure I don't have binders on and not sure what I would do with them anyway.

It's an SUV - why would I think that it's going to be good? The last SUV I owned (Ford Explorer) was reliable and very cheap, but I felt like it was killing my soul driving it to work all winter. I like my Fiesta ST ok. It's somewhat of a little S box, but at least it isn't quite so boring.

It's electric - why would I think it's decent? If I'm going to spend over $30k for a vehicle, it better have a V8 and a manual transmission. Otherwise I'm not interested.

0-60 is not that important to me but it is to the automotive world. Its the first spec anyone asks about. As far as other vehicle dynamics again I say look at the engineers. I do not expect GT350 handling but if its as good or better than my wife's Escape I'll be happy.

0-60 is the strongest point of electric vehicles. The weak points are they cost too much, the batteries don't last, it takes too long to fill them up, they are dangerous to work on, bad for the environment, etc. Too many weak points to list.

My wife has an Escape as well. It's fine. It's a lower cost, practical vehicle that has plenty of room. I wouldn't buy one, but she likes it ok. She says it's too car like and is looking forward to the baby Bronco or whatever Ford will call it. If this electric vehicle cost $15 - $20k (less than the Escape), then I would be a lot more optimistic about it. Based on the pricing, it just seems stupid to me. I wouldn't even consider it. It's no good for a longer trip and I don't think it will last very long, so it really has a lot of drawbacks compared to a gas engine car.

I understand the sentiment but we already pay our taxes. I do not mind getting something back now and then.

The government should be using our money for important things. Not for kickbacks to private industry. Just my opinion. I don't want my money wasted on high-priced, impractical crap vehicles.

 

[Topnotch]

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[Jeff's FRC]

Where is the petition to shut the butthurt twats up that are big mad about a car name? Ill sign the shit outta that petition!

 

[1MEAN18]

Mike, please stop. Let's keep the political comments over on the Members Forum. You may or may not like the Mach-E as a vehicle or because of the Mustang name. Neither of those have anything to do with the "worldwide" shift from fossil fuels to alternate power sources. Right now the best mobile solution is electric. That may change in the future but every automotive manufacturer is either selling or designing electric vehicles right now. This have nothing to do with California, a leftist agenda or Millennial's. As far as where the car's are made, well that's pure economics. Why is your cellphone made in China, your large screen TV in Mexico. Manufacturers will build where they get the most return on investment. I'm sure Ford has their reasons for building the Mach-E in Mexico. Would I preferred a US built vehicle? Sure, but that's not happening.

By the way, I do agree with your first comment which is why I signed the petition. Based on what is going on in social media maybe Ford will hear us. The vehicle isn't coming for another year. The name can still be changed.

Sorry if facts are now seen as politics. I just tell the truth either way...this is a more leftist agenda going waaaaay back, and until you folks who have your point of view come to grips that we not only don't possess the infrastructure or the political will but we don't have the funds to usher in a new era in a world where basic stuff like bridges are crumbling. But hey lets use coal to make electricity and some people can pretend that's environmental...but more reasonable minds know better. I can't help it some people see this as politics purely when its so much more complex...and at this point doesn't make much sense. Oil is cheap and will be for a long time to come, and this tech isn't nearly ready for prime time, hell Tesla doesn't even make a profit on electric vehicles, and the vast majority of people buying them up till today rely heavily on gov't subsidies to do so. Like I said...its way more complex than just pure politics as you stated.

 

[Bikeman315]

Pretty sure I don't have binders on and not sure what I would do with them anyway.

It's an SUV - why would I think that it's going to be good? The last SUV I owned (Ford Explorer) was reliable and very cheap, but I felt like it was killing my soul driving it to work all winter. I like my Fiesta ST ok. It's somewhat of a little S box, but at least it isn't quite so boring.

It's electric - why would I think it's decent? If I'm going to spend over $30k for a vehicle, it better have a V8 and a manual transmission. Otherwise I'm not interested.

0-60 is the strongest point of electric vehicles. The weak points are they cost too much, the batteries don't last, it takes too long to fill them up, they are dangerous to work on, bad for the environment, etc. Too many weak points to list.

My wife has an Escape as well. It's fine. It's a lower cost, practical vehicle that has plenty of room. I wouldn't buy one, but she likes it ok. She says it's too car like and is looking forward to the baby Bronco or whatever Ford will call it. If this electric vehicle cost $15 - $20k (less than the Escape), then I would be a lot more optimistic about it. Based on the pricing, it just seems stupid to me. I wouldn't even consider it. It's no good for a longer trip and I don't think it will last very long, so it really has a lot of drawbacks compared to a gas engine car.

The government should be using our money for important things. Not for kickbacks to private industry. Just my opinion. I don't want my money wasted on high-priced, impractical crap vehicles.

I understand your points. The only reason we are even discussing this vehicle is because they named it after beloved Mustang. Otherwise why would we care?

Ford is loving this. As they say "so long as they're talkin' it doesn't matter what their sayin'"

 

[Hack]

I understand your points. The only reason we are even discussing this vehicle is because they named it after beloved Mustang. Otherwise why would we care?

Ford is loving this. As they say "so long as they're talkin' it doesn't matter what their sayin'"

I agree if it wasn't named Mustang we would have nothing to say.

 

[Bikeman315]

Sorry if facts are now seen as politics. I just tell the truth either way...this is a more leftist agenda going waaaaay back, and until you folks who have your point of view come to grips that we not only don't possess the infrastructure or the political will but we don't have the funds to usher in a new era in a world where basic stuff like bridges are crumbling. But hey lets use coal to make electricity and some people can pretend that's environmental...but more reasonable minds know better. I can't help it some people see this as politics purely when its so much more complex.

This is what happens when a leftist agenda meets millenials in charge of a major company

Sorry, but this is not a fact. It's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. I will not argue that. But please do not tell me its not political. It is and doesn't belong here.

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