"Mustang Mach E" Confirmed, Reservations Begin Immediately After Nov 17 Live-Streamed Reveal

[slag1911]

still not faster than a ec0boost at part throttle...

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[Schwerin]

I voted "slightly less likely" but I don't mean because I'd buy an E, I mean because I'd be less likely to buy Ford at all.

Between this and them killing their cars Ford has gone from my favorite brand and one I'd buy with no question, to one that I don't feel I'll be buying again when it's time for a new vehicle.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Failing to innovate = Natural Selection. I think this move by Ford is a stroke of genius. Use arguably the most iconic name plate in automotive history to essentially launch their EV portfolio. I, for one, welcome the decision and look forward to seeing what product comes of it.

Natural selection also leads to evolutionary dead ends. If this new product can't stand on its own merits to the point where it has to strip the Mustang nameplate of its uniqueness in order to have a chance, then perhaps the new product deserves to become yet another automotive flash in the pan.


Norm

 

[Bikeman315]

If I’m looking to buy “A” I really don’t care about B, C, & D. I’m not happy Ford did what they did but if I want another Mustang, I’ll buy one.

 

[Norm Peterson]

I found my 2018 GT to be just that, a Grand Tourer, not a sports car. The steering in particular was just too non-linear and imprecise. This new chassis for the electric 4 door might be much better than the rather woolly S550.

It's a CUV. It won't be a sports car. Touring car (without the 'Grand') maybe. The best you're going to get will be computer-determined/defined/limited performance metrics.

The Mach E appears to be nippier at legal speeds than the S550 and if it has sharper steering it will be a great car. Perhaps a car of the times rather than a museum piece.

If it gets "sharper steering" - which I rather doubt - it'll be because there will be a lot of computer trickery going on "behind the scenes". It'll be more like the new Blazer, where the vehicle's actual dynamics do not accurately reflect what the driver is up to with his steering inputs. Not a good thing if you value driving as a skill that one develops over time and through experience.


Norm

 

[w3rkn]

This new Mustang is too grasping... too trying, for no reason. Why Ford chose to relate this to a Mustang is ultra suspicious given that we now know, that the Mach E is a yuppie family car.

I can't see the correlation/dna/heritage/lineage/etc...

 

[w3rkn]

The Mach E is another Mustang.... You buying?

 

[Bikeman315]

The Mach E is another Mustang.... You buying?

I wouldn’t replace my S550 with any SUV/CUV but that’s just me. My wife wants to drive one as soon as my dealer gets one. If she likes it and the pricing is within reason, she’ll get one.

 

[Dudie7]

Natural selection also leads to evolutionary dead ends. If this new product can't stand on its own merits to the point where it has to strip the Mustang nameplate of its uniqueness in order to have a chance, then perhaps the new product deserves to become yet another automotive flash in the pan.


Norm

Only time will tell. A product standing on its' own merits is true of any product; whether it's considered an evolution of the Mustang line or not. To that end, Ford using the Mustang name plate to help foster that success is the right move; especially if they've done their due diligence to ensure that this is just not another EV.

 

[w3rkn]

Mach E is no longer a consideration for me, because the made the interior for young kids who NEED and lcd in the face at all time.

I get in my car to get away from that sh!t...

 

[Bikeman315]

The best you're going to get will be computer-determined/defined/limited performance metrics.

If it gets "sharper steering" - which I rather doubt - it'll be because there will be a lot of computer trickery going on "behind the scenes". It'll be more like the new Blazer, where the vehicle's actual dynamics do not accurately reflect what the driver is up to with his steering inputs.

Sorry Norm but for better or worse our S550's are virtually controlled by its electronic systems. And our steering is electric. The good news is that the Mustang's engineers have taken all of this technology and still given us a car that feels like a car. Hopefully that will continue with the Mach-E and anything that comes after it.

 

[Shifting_Gears]

It’s amazing how offended everyone is getting over this vehicle.

Ford is a for profit company. Their job isn’t to listen to what a fraction of their customer base (ie; us the enthusiasts) tell them to build or not build, or what they’ll buy or not buy.

In order for them to survive they need to follow market trends and future speculation of what’s new and hot. I’m happy the Mustang is the one car platform they kept for the USDM. I would be pissed if they killed it off, but not pissed they’re bringing in a hot market vehicle to target the market currently occupied by Tesla.

Mach is a Mustang throwback. Designating an Explorer or Edge as an ST model is a marketing ploy to a niche group who want a performance oriented vehicle that still checks a lot of boxes. All ST’s have a big grill and edgy styling, but it doesn’t mean the Fiesta/Focus ST never existed.

Using the Mustang or Mach moniker on a crossover is doing the same thing. Taking styling cues from the Mustang? Cool, Ford knows what works. Imagine being the 40 something Dad with 3 kids that couldn’t fit a “real” Mustang into the budget or practicality checkbox. This is an option for that customer.

Ford didn’t stop building the Mustang for this car.

 

[OX1]

EV is here people. Get with the program. Hell just watch Watchman. every vehicle on that show is electric. Heck even classics like the black grand national the main character drives has been converted to electric. With the way things are going, it will not be long from now.....maybe 10 years top if that, the EV will be the main source of driving and a gas powered car will be something you look at.

Not even close.................................. Electrics don't reach even 50% of global sales
until 2038/2039. Combine that with average lifespan of new cars now almost 12 years.
Gas going to be around almost forever.

 

[Shifting_Gears]

I'd be more down with a four door S550 to compete with Panamera and A7.

Yeah. AWD optional, long & low, powered by a TT Coyote.

 

[Bikeman315]

Not even close.................................. Electrics don't reach even 50% of global sales
until 2038/2039. Combine that with average lifespan of new cars now almost 12 years.
Gas going to be around almost forever.

See post #155. Agreed that ICE is going to be around for awhile. The chart is based on what we have/know now. But as the technology improves both for the vehicles and the power generation this most likely will change. The one thing that will not change is that eventually the supply of fossil fuels will dwindle. Have no idea when but it will happen.

By the way, used to live in Monroe Township. Jackson is a great town.

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