LUND TUNE shipped! What should I know!?

[Rjames18]

Ever heard of emissions requirements? Also a slightly more restrictive intake at high rpm will tend to (not strictly) produce better throttle response and torque down low. It's tradeoffs. If you ever see the design requirements document for Ford Air induction systems, you'll find they're not as optimized for peak power as you'd think. As with any OEM system, there are many tradeoffs.

There is plenty of ways to get around emission requirements lol. If you haven't found a way that's on you.

Again I never said that they were built for the baddest intakes out there but they are optimized in a very efficient way.
I still would rather not spend $300+ for a lousy 3-5whp... All you're doing is psyching yourself into thinking you made your car faster.
If its for looks cool go right ahead if that'll make you sleep better at night

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[BmacIL]

There is plenty of ways to get around emission requirements lol. If you haven't found a way that's on you.

Again I never said that they were built for the baddest intakes out there but they are optimized in a very efficient way.
I still would rather not spend $300+ for a lousy 3-5whp... All you're doing is psyching yourself into thinking you made your car faster.
If its for looks cool go right ahead if that'll make you sleep better at night

 

[Rjames18]

Happens a lot lol

 

[Zinc03svt]

You're right it's way more likely that there is a HUGE CONSPIRACY against all car owners that purchase CAI's and tune them! HOW DID I NEVER SEE THIS BEFORE...OMG THANK YOU!!! I mean it's insane to think that improving the amount of air/oxygen into your engine and getting a tune could produce more power than a stock set up. I mean adding oxygen to a fire extinguishes and puts it out right?! Breathing through a straw is way more efficient than through your nose or mouth right?!

Does the tune do the majority of the work in making the extra power? YES
Will a Stock CAI & Tune give you increased power? YES
Can you make more power with a JLT & Tune over a Stock & Tune? YES (prove me otherwise with Dyno charts or beat it)

Sure we should dyno both intakes with the hood closed like we do in normal driving. .

 

[Rjames18]

DYNO CHARTS DONT MEAN SH!T

Change my mind

 

[michail71]

The primary reason I swapped to the JLT 2018 version was for the 120MM inlet and the MAF being back a bit from the filter to smooth out the readings. The ported manifold is obviously flowing a lot more air than the previous 15-17 manifold so I want to suck in more. Between the amount of air and then running the flex tune hopefully with a redline set up to 8100-8200 rpm, I'm expecting some decent results.

The '18 is already set up extremely well from the factory with the already kick ass manifold. Removing that carbon trap from the filter doesn't leave much room for improvement from where it stands. Drop in filter and you're set. You "might" be able to squeeze a couple HP up top going with an aftermarket one, but I don't know many people trying to prove that with a legit test (Not an open hood JLT\PMAS dyno).

The fist time I stomped on the pedal with E85R loaded I was . That was plenty enough as is (for the road at least) with stock intake, lol.

But who knows, down the road I may want to try FI at some point.

I'm back to a tank of 93 octane in preparation for a road trip and it feels so sluggish.

 

[michail71]

DYNO CHARTS DONT MEAN SH!T

Change my mind

Lund kind of said the same thing about my question on the CAI when not recommending it. Once again, I don't want to speak for them.

 

[NorthernBeast]

Lund kind of said the same thing about my question on the CAI when not recommending it. Once again, I don't want to speak for them.

Well now you have spoken to them so why don't you tell us exactly what they said word for word. If you have email or chat with them then post it. Otherwise you're just throwing their name around without any proof.

Did they say we can get yo close to the same power with stock or did they say CAI is not worth the money and won't get you any more power at all?

 

[ugstang17]

I was hoping to read about how the tune loaded and how the ngage is working and how the service for OP has been from Lund. All I hear is a bunch of useless chatter about CAI vs factory air box. What other dead horse can be beat again in this thread...oil preference? LOL!

 

[EVL-S550]

What other dead horse can be beat again in this thread...oil preference? LOL!

Engine tick and/or low RPM rattle, lol.

 

[ugstang17]

Engine tick and/or low RPM rattle, lol.

 

[NorthernBeast]

I was about to buy either PMAS or JLT for my 2018(tuned by lund).

Before i pulled the trigger, I emailed Brandon (my tuner at lund) and asked him what he thought about either one. He told me its not worth the money for what you would gain(3-5hp at best) and would also be looking at higher IATs as well. Told me to save my money and go with longtubes if I wanted a more noticeable gain.

so longtubes it will be at some point..

No argument that you will gain more power from headers but I just find they make the car obnoxiously loud. My car already pushed 122-123db without them. Couldn't imagine if I had them. I'll take my 3-5hp and enjoy my car. Sounds like you have a nice set up as well

 

[Zelek]

I would have gladly ran my Steeda closed intake had the MAF sensor been placed back further. Instead, I'll be selling it brand new, unused.

 

[Furious18]

Just a suspicion on my part but it seems Tuners are trying not to piss off vendors or turn away customers that already purchased parts. People get very defensive about their cars and the parts they purchased. 3-5 hp is a nice way of saying they don’t do shit and even harm in most temperatures in my assumption

 

[Loki-GT]

The CAI on a 2018+ doesn't do anything but that's ok. Perhaps if you have forced induction it may help.

Do you have Flex/E85R or 91/93? I'm happy with my Flex. When I get a tank that has 85ish% ethanol and I load the E85R file I almost feel like it's too much, the 1080R/coyote 3 will take off like a spooked race horse.

The flex file is a very nice daily on the road. From what I gather the flex file on 91 should be similar to a 91 tune, which is what they seem to be pushing on this platform.

Lund also has great support.

Fellow Crimson here, open CAI's can heat soak but they do make some power, I bought the closed CAI with 120mm and let me tell you that and the 93 tune is making better power all the way to 7800. I'll have proof this Spring. My worry since my 2006 GT with an open CAI was air inlet tempts while sitting at the light waiting for the tree was crazy, with this closed CAI it barely goes up so we'll see. Getting the Flex/E85 tune in the next few weeks to maximize my drag strip efforts.

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