afraid of the 2018 GT? buy now or no?

[GNN60GT500]

The internet is filled with FUD. Buy the car and enjoy it. If something breaks, have it repaired under warranty.



It isn't new. Ford has used PTWA on the '11-'14 GT500 engines, along with the '15+ GT350 engines. They also licensed the tech to Nissan for the GT-R long before it was ever used in a Ford product. It held up well in high HP FI engines, and it will be fine in your NA GT.

The internet is no place for this kind of logical rational thinking. Everything is either chosen by the hand of God or destined to blow up within the next 30 days : )

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[jimmerheck]

I think they sell about 8K mustangs per month. roughly. Dont know how many of those are Coyote motors, but lets say half. So 12m of stangs times 8K per month is about 100K Mustangs for the 18 model year. So half of those 5.0 Coyote motors, 50K of them, how many actually have problems? I think it better be a smoking deal on an 18 as its actually 1 year old already as the 19's are coming out.

 

[wanted33]

Ahhhh, you've been reading to many forums. Folks come to forums to complain about their problems, not to praise the car. Most all of the problems you read about on forums represent a very small percentage of Mustangs built. Mine has been fine, and a absolute hoot to drive.

 

[slink]

5000 miles on my manual coyote. Zero problems. This is my 5th Mustang ( Had a 1999, 2006,2012, 2016 & 2018). Never had any mechanical problems with any of them.

 

[mulage]

had a 15 , sold it, drove a 18 meehhhh, and it sounded like it was knocking

hate the way the seats in the S550 sit so damn high

 

[Bald Menace]

I have a mid December build 2018 and so far it's been fine. then again I only put about 100 miles a month on it. if you're buying to enjoy as is without plans top do any immediate drivetrain upgrades I would buy without any worries, warranty will take care of any issues that arise. if you're planning on modding right away then you are taking a chance on having an issue and being denied a warranty repair for that issue.

 

[66Bronc1]

Buy a LT1 camaro. They have zero problems. Lol.

If you buy a Camaro get manual transmission or wait for the 10 speed automatic- don't get the A8. I had so many problems with the shudder in my automatic 8 speed and after waiting 3 weeks for it at the dealership I got sick of it and traded it in for my 2018 GT. I so hope the GT is better- at least I got the 6 speed manual, no automatic ever again for me after the issues with the Camaro. My Fiesta ST has been great so I went with another Ford. I never owned a Mustang before- but so far so good but I only had it 2 weeks and it's a weekend only car. I use the FIST as my daily driver since it gets almost 39 MPG versus the GT's 15.

 

[Fatguy]

You guys.....


I always maintained to never buy the first year of new car production and that alone is cause for concern. In advertising back in the day when one person bitched to us (or switched brands) about something we equated it to 12,000 in the general population. So you drive your car 650 miles and the engine didn’t grenade. Or maybe 5k or 15k with no problems, this means nothing. The shitiest engine ever built should at least go 30,000 miles and that was the thinking from the 1980s. Wait 10 years and see what the final verdict is on these engines.


I will say one thing. The guys that mod and beat their cars usually don’t keep them for long so selling after 2 years or so could make sense. If you intend to keep the car and drive it into the ground several multiples of the power train warantee, then I would be cautious for sure.

 

[TomcatDriver]

You guys.....


I always maintained to never buy the first year of new car production and that alone is cause for concern. In advertising back in the day when one person bitched to us (or switched brands) about something we equated it to 12,000 in the general population.

I don't think this rule holds true on forums in the internet era. The first year rule isn't as true as it used too be either. There are certainly brands of cars (Toyota) that I wouldn't hesitate to buy first year.

 

[Draklia]

I don't think this rule holds true on forums in the internet era. The first year rule isn't as true as it used too be either. There are certainly brands of cars (Toyota) that I wouldn't hesitate to buy first year.

Are you saying because of the internet and car forums that engineers can do a better job releasing rushed projects when one of the objectives is everything should be cheaper than than the previous model year?

 

[Bluelightning]

I've got 8,000 miles on my 18 GT Premium PP1 MT-82 car and absolutely love it. No issues so far. Now has a Whipple on it which has made it even more fun. Would not hesitate to buy again.

 

[Zathras]

I also prefer to wait a year after a major product change, but the way Ford and other car companies seem to work, it may not matter--the 2nd year may still be the same as the first. At least from the outside perspective of an owner, carmakers don't seem to be very proactive when it comes to making quick fixes...sometimes they just keep production churning with the same problems year after year (see AC evaporators, bubbling hoods, poor body panel fit, etc.).

 

[TomcatDriver]

Are you saying because of the internet and car forums that engineers can do a better job releasing rushed projects when one of the objectives is everything should be cheaper than than the previous model year?

No, I mean the ROT that one complaint=12,000 problems that you don't hear about is not a good assumption. In the internet forum age, as soon as someone hears a weird sound they immediately find a forum and start talking about it. Every car forum is full of stories, and one would assume that nearly every car on the planet was a ticking time bomb if you believed that every internet complaint=12,000.

As for the first model year rule, I just have not seen more than anecdotal evidnece that it's valid. First, very few cars are produced that are really "all new". They are developed as platforms and share components across the line. The 2018 S550 is certainly not "new". It's a minor facelift with a few components updated. Cars are (on average) better today that they EVER were. There are tons of cars that have been great from the first model year or first redesign year. Certainly the potential for some lurking major undiscovered problem is higher on the first year, since nobody has had one long enough to find it, but it also means you might be buying an older model year instead that has problems that get fixed with the new redesign.

 

[wanted33]

had a 15 , sold it, drove a 18 meehhhh, and it sounded like it was knocking

hate the way the seats in the S550 sit so damn high

Well sir, they're not for everyone. If those things bother you you'll never be happy with the car.

 

[Draklia]

No, I mean the ROT that one complaint=12,000 problems that you don't hear about is not a good assumption. In the internet forum age, as soon as someone hears a weird sound they immediately find a forum and start talking about it. Every car forum is full of stories, and one would assume that nearly every car on the planet was a ticking time bomb if you believed that every internet complaint=12,000.

As for the first model year rule, I just have not seen more than anecdotal evidnece that it's valid. First, very few cars are produced that are really "all new". They are developed as platforms and share components across the line. The 2018 S550 is certainly not "new". It's a minor facelift with a few components updated. Cars are (on average) better today that they EVER were. There are tons of cars that have been great from the first model year or first redesign year. Certainly the potential for some lurking major undiscovered problem is higher on the first year, since nobody has had one long enough to find it, but it also means you might be buying an older model year instead that has problems that get fixed with the new redesign.

Makes total sense. I typically like waiting a year or two after a new release. I’m an engineer and would hate to be one of the customers receiving one of my companies new releases.

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