Steeda cai vs jlt cai your thoughts

[SteedaTech]

That is great info!
So how much timing is pulled say at 205, then say 210, 215 and 220?

Good info as well on AFR, my car is doing 11.8-12.2 at WOT which agrees with your statement.

It could be as much as 6 degrees at 220. The best way is to data log to get accurate numbers.

Thanks, Steeda Tech

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[SteedaTech]

That's funny. Same power with stock box and 20-30* cooler head temps.. How about addressing the issue that is actually at play: taking the heat extraction vent out of play.

My tune has been data logged and reviewed while at the track. Both my 93 tune and e85/flex fuel. I'll stick with their advice and only use the stock box.

Hi Stoli, could you reach out to our tech dept @ 954-960-0774

Ask for steeda tech and I would love to go over your build and see how we can help. I'm a road racer at heart too.

Thanks Steeda Tech

 

[WildFire]

Steeda Cold Air Intake (555-3193)

My Online Question to Steeda- A few months ago my wife purchased the Steeda Cold Air Intake (555-3193) for my 2015 Mustang GT Convertible. Now that it is getting warmer I noticed that the inlet temp is much higher during slow driving or while at stop lights. For example yesterday the Inlet Air Temp shows 158 and the Outside temp showed 89. Once the car got up to highway speeds for about a mile the Inlet Air Temp temp went back to within a few degrees of the outside air temp. I think that the CAI seal is not sealing properly and is allowing hot engine temps into the CAI box. Does Steeda have a taller seal that would help seal the CAI box thereby reducing CAI inlet temps? If not any suggestions?

Steeda Response- Hey Roger, the IAT will always be higher and rising when the car is at idle or sitting still. Once you get moving it should cool on down. That is normal functionality of a CAI. Nothing seems to be wrong with what you have explained to me.*


My solution was to purchase a small trash can from Home Depot cut it and then use adhesive / sealant with rivets to fill the gap. I also opened up a few of the hex holes in the grill.
In my opinion, it doesn’t look too bad. Now my inlet temperature does not rise that high(even at idle) and cools much quicker when driving.

It is my hope that Steeda could design and sell a new CAI that will seal against the hood insulation. Additionally Steeda should design and sell a tall bulb type seal kit or other solution that current Steeda owners could purchase to seal the CAI from the hot engine bay.

 

[tj@steeda]

My Online Question to Steeda- A few months ago my wife purchased the Steeda Cold Air Intake (555-3193) for my 2015 Mustang GT Convertible. Now that it is getting warmer I noticed that the inlet temp is much higher during slow driving or while at stop lights. For example yesterday the Inlet Air Temp shows 158 and the Outside temp showed 89. Once the car got up to highway speeds for about a mile the Inlet Air Temp temp went back to within a few degrees of the outside air temp. I think that the CAI seal is not sealing properly and is allowing hot engine temps into the CAI box. Does Steeda have a taller seal that would help seal the CAI box thereby reducing CAI inlet temps? If not any suggestions?

Steeda Response- Hey Roger, the IAT will always be higher and rising when the car is at idle or sitting still. Once you get moving it should cool on down. That is normal functionality of a CAI. Nothing seems to be wrong with what you have explained to me.*


My solution was to purchase a small trash can from Home Depot cut it and then use adhesive / sealant with rivets to fill the gap. I also opened up a few of the hex holes in the grill.
In my opinion, it doesn’t look too bad. Now my inlet temperature does not rise that high(even at idle) and cools much quicker when driving.

It is my hope that Steeda could design and sell a new CAI that will seal against the hood insulation. Additionally Steeda should design and sell a tall bulb type seal kit or other solution that current Steeda owners could purchase to seal the CAI from the hot engine bay.

I have passed this on to our product development team for review & feedback. Completely understand your concerns with the temperatures. We have sold 1000s of our CAIs & they continue to be one of the most popular on the market.

The intake is made to provide more airflow and it does, and the temperatures of the intake also come down as long as there is airflow, so you are not loosing performance as long as you are moving and you have airflow.

If you are moving - you are accelerating which is where the intake is designed to improve performance vs. sitting at idle.

Additionally - we use this same CAI on our test fleet of Mustangs - on & off the track, some meant for racing & they perform great.

As mentioned above, I will provide you feedback for review.

Best Regards,

TJ

 

[ChitownStang]

I was thinking about Steeda CAI and this IAT of 158 degrees seems crazy high. 95 degrees out here in Chicago today and my stock box was at about 110 at stoplights. Car felt like a dog in this heat, especially with AC on. Heat Kills HP!

 

[Bluemustang]

I was thinking about Steeda CAI and this IAT of 158 degrees seems crazy high. 95 degrees out here in Chicago today and my stock box was at about 110 at stoplights. Car felt like a dog in this heat, especially with AC on. Heat Kills HP!

Since I switched to the JLT and put in their foam isolator, mine never gets over about 40-50* above ambient when sitting at idle for a long time and it doesn't rise nearly as fast as the Steeda one did. And it drops much faster once I start moving. Mine will never go over low 140s even in high heat. Temps drop fairly quickly. The AC will def make it slower though, even stock airbox won't change that.

Still much higher than the stock airbox but it's worked out better for me.

 

[craigsix]

Nope. Search my username on CobaltSS.net.

i had an 09 cobalt ss tuned by area47. fun car but the cops had my number.

 

[ChitownStang]

Thanks for the info Bluemustang

Since I switched to the JLT and put in their foam isolator, mine never gets over about 40-50* above ambient when sitting at idle for a long time and it doesn't rise nearly as fast as the Steeda one did. And it drops much faster once I start moving. Mine will never go over low 140s even in high heat. Temps drop fairly quickly. The AC will def make it slower though, even stock airbox won't change that.

Still much higher than the stock airbox but it's worked out better for me.

 

[JRENIGAR]

My Online Question to Steeda- A few months ago my wife purchased the Steeda Cold Air Intake (555-3193) for my 2015 Mustang GT Convertible. Now that it is getting warmer I noticed that the inlet temp is much higher during slow driving or while at stop lights. For example yesterday the Inlet Air Temp shows 158 and the Outside temp showed 89. Once the car got up to highway speeds for about a mile the Inlet Air Temp temp went back to within a few degrees of the outside air temp. I think that the CAI seal is not sealing properly and is allowing hot engine temps into the CAI box. Does Steeda have a taller seal that would help seal the CAI box thereby reducing CAI inlet temps? If not any suggestions?

Steeda Response- Hey Roger, the IAT will always be higher and rising when the car is at idle or sitting still. Once you get moving it should cool on down. That is normal functionality of a CAI. Nothing seems to be wrong with what you have explained to me.*


My solution was to purchase a small trash can from Home Depot cut it and then use adhesive / sealant with rivets to fill the gap. I also opened up a few of the hex holes in the grill.
In my opinion, it doesn’t look too bad. Now my inlet temperature does not rise that high(even at idle) and cools much quicker when driving.

It is my hope that Steeda could design and sell a new CAI that will seal against the hood insulation. Additionally Steeda should design and sell a tall bulb type seal kit or other solution that current Steeda owners could purchase to seal the CAI from the hot engine bay.

Same issue I am having with mine. It heats up very fast in stop and go traffic and takes several miles to completely cool down to roughly 6-7 deg above ambient again. Seems to make good power with my custom BBR tune though.

 

[ChitownStang]

Jlt comes with this Foam insert?

Since I switched to the JLT and put in their foam isolator, mine never gets over about 40-50* above ambient when sitting at idle for a long time and it doesn't rise nearly as fast as the Steeda one did. And it drops much faster once I start moving. Mine will never go over low 140s even in high heat. Temps drop fairly quickly. The AC will def make it slower though, even stock airbox won't change that.

Still much higher than the stock airbox but it's worked out better for me.

 

[pgonza2723]

Yes, mine came with it as well:

https://www.jlttruecoldair.com/ZenC...ucts_id=1123&zenid=h07uhri1tfq72nn8ekvfl40jn6

 

[SVT-DADDY]

My Online Question to Steeda- A few months ago my wife purchased the Steeda Cold Air Intake (555-3193) for my 2015 Mustang GT Convertible. Now that it is getting warmer I noticed that the inlet temp is much higher during slow driving or while at stop lights. For example yesterday the Inlet Air Temp shows 158 and the Outside temp showed 89. Once the car got up to highway speeds for about a mile the Inlet Air Temp temp went back to within a few degrees of the outside air temp. I think that the CAI seal is not sealing properly and is allowing hot engine temps into the CAI box. Does Steeda have a taller seal that would help seal the CAI box thereby reducing CAI inlet temps? If not any suggestions?

Steeda Response- Hey Roger, the IAT will always be higher and rising when the car is at idle or sitting still. Once you get moving it should cool on down. That is normal functionality of a CAI. Nothing seems to be wrong with what you have explained to me.*


My solution was to purchase a small trash can from Home Depot cut it and then use adhesive / sealant with rivets to fill the gap. I also opened up a few of the hex holes in the grill.
In my opinion, it doesn’t look too bad. Now my inlet temperature does not rise that high(even at idle) and cools much quicker when driving.

It is my hope that Steeda could design and sell a new CAI that will seal against the hood insulation. Additionally Steeda should design and sell a tall bulb type seal kit or other solution that current Steeda owners could purchase to seal the CAI from the hot engine bay.

That looks pretty good!

 

[JRENIGAR]

That looks pretty good!

I cant tell anything was done to the heat shield. The pic wont blow up any from the posted size. :shrug:

 

[tj@steeda]

My Online Question to Steeda- A few months ago my wife purchased the Steeda Cold Air Intake (555-3193) for my 2015 Mustang GT Convertible. Now that it is getting warmer I noticed that the inlet temp is much higher during slow driving or while at stop lights. For example yesterday the Inlet Air Temp shows 158 and the Outside temp showed 89. Once the car got up to highway speeds for about a mile the Inlet Air Temp temp went back to within a few degrees of the outside air temp. I think that the CAI seal is not sealing properly and is allowing hot engine temps into the CAI box. Does Steeda have a taller seal that would help seal the CAI box thereby reducing CAI inlet temps? If not any suggestions?

Steeda Response- Hey Roger, the IAT will always be higher and rising when the car is at idle or sitting still. Once you get moving it should cool on down. That is normal functionality of a CAI. Nothing seems to be wrong with what you have explained to me.*


My solution was to purchase a small trash can from Home Depot cut it and then use adhesive / sealant with rivets to fill the gap. I also opened up a few of the hex holes in the grill.
In my opinion, it doesn’t look too bad. Now my inlet temperature does not rise that high(even at idle) and cools much quicker when driving.

It is my hope that Steeda could design and sell a new CAI that will seal against the hood insulation. Additionally Steeda should design and sell a tall bulb type seal kit or other solution that current Steeda owners could purchase to seal the CAI from the hot engine bay.

Hello All:

Steeda wanted to help provide some feedback comparing our race proven Steeda CAI vs. the stock intake on the Mustang – discussing the ambient & inlet temperatures.

When Steeda designs, engineers & manufactures parts for the Mustang … we do so with PERFORMANCE & FUNCTIONALITY in mind – hence that is the reason we designed our Steeda CAI to perform at speed vs. Idle.

Here is some great information that may help you understand the benefits of the Steeda CAI over stock while comparing the two (2) at idle & at speed.

The stock CAI starting at idle with 115 degrees IAT will take much longer to get within 8 degrees of ambient vs. the Steeda CAI starting at idle with 144 degrees IAT.

Yes, the stock CAI will eventually get there but the Steeda unit will get their much quicker while making much more power & having increased airflow.

You may be asking yourself, why would it take longer for the stock airbox to get to the lower temp vs. the Steeda CAI? The reason is … because the complete stock air box gets heat soaked & takes longer to achieve the same drop vs. the Steeda unit.

Yes, even though the Steeda CAI is showing higher temperatures at idle … it will still cool to within 8 degrees ambient much faster & produce more HP than the stock unit.

What would you prefer? Better performance sitting at idle or better performance at Speed?

That is the Steeda difference!

Best Regards,

TJ

 

[ChitownStang]

Great explanation TJ!

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