Gt500 vs Gt350

[Hack]

The ~10-15k price delta between the boss and the GT350/500 has very little to do with just the name. I would still buy the car as it stands, labeled whatever ford desired. Although Boss 317 doesnt really roll off the tongue.

The car makes the name. The name doesn't make the car.

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[stinger556]

Who says it will be a GT500?

who says it won't? Just because Ford plans on building other Mustangs (Mach 1, Boss 302 etc) does not mean a GT500 isn't being developed. And I know you think you have 'insider' information, but you don't have nearly the intel some other guys here have.

 

[Mustang_Scotty]

"Good cars get you daydreaming; great ones force you to reassess priorities." The GT350 is for me the only car in my life that made me reassess my priorities. Mark my words, you will not see another GT350 after this production run for at least another 50 years if at all. This car is truly special, something Ford has never done before and correct me if I am wrong no other American automobile company has mass produced before. I believe as many have said already, this will be the last of the V8 for Ford, especially in the FPC flavor. This car was born a legend! It may not be the fastest, quickest or the lightest but where it may fall short it makes up in gobs of character. This is the kind of car that people talk about for generations, like the original. GT500? No thanks.

Nicely said!

 

[UOP Shadow]

The car makes the name. The name doesn't make the car.

Not true. That's why Ford bought the rights to use Shelby's name. If the car had just been called an SVT Cobra, Ford would not have been able to charge as much as they did.

People PAY for the Shelby brand. Just look at prices for Shelby items to know this as fact.

 

[cosmo]

Not true. That's why Ford bought the rights to use Shelby's name. If the car had just been called an SVT Cobra, Ford would not have been able to charge as much as they did.

People PAY for the Shelby brand. Just look at prices for Shelby items to know this as fact.

I would absolutely LOVE if this car was called a Cobra instead of a "Shelby". And I highly, highly doubt they wouldn't be able to charge just as much. That nameplate doesn't carry the same weight as it used to. "GT500" and "GT350" do, but "Shelby" doesn't. And the GT500 and GT350 nameplates aren't synonymous with Shelby anymore. I never hear the full "Shelby GTXXX" when discussing them with anyone, only GTXXX.

Who buys those overpriced Shelby variants nowadays anyways? They can all be had for much cheaper in the aftermarket.

 

[DrumReaper]

Not true. That's why Ford bought the rights to use Shelby's name. If the car had just been called an SVT Cobra, Ford would not have been able to charge as much as they did.

People PAY for the Shelby brand. Just look at prices for Shelby items to know this as fact.

I disagree...

This is just an unsubstantiated postulation, at best.

 

[DrumReaper]

"Good cars get you daydreaming; great ones force you to reassess priorities." The GT350 is for me the only car in my life that made me reassess my priorities. Mark my words, you will not see another GT350 after this production run for at least another 50 years if at all. This car is truly special, something Ford has never done before and correct me if I am wrong no other American automobile company has mass produced before. I believe as many have said already, this will be the last of the V8 for Ford, especially in the FPC flavor. This car was born a legend! It may not be the fastest, quickest or the lightest but where it may fall short it makes up in gobs of character. This is the kind of car that people talk about for generations, like the original. GT500? No thanks.

There will be another GT350 - Mark my words!

It may be a GT350 volts, lol, but there'll be another. :cheers:

 

[stanglife]

Not true. That's why Ford bought the rights to use Shelby's name. If the car had just been called an SVT Cobra, Ford would not have been able to charge as much as they did.

People PAY for the Shelby brand. Just look at prices for Shelby items to know this as fact.

This is mostly wrong. Among enthusiasts, many wish this would have been called an SVT Cobra again. There's a history of SE Cobras and R models already. Among people who don't know any better - perhaps calling it a Shelby would catch the eye of some. I don't think calling it a Cobra would have prevented them from selling every one they could make AND the MSRP would be the same.

Poll I did shows more people wanted to see SVT Cobra come back - this was before it was widely known that the new name would be GT350 or Shelby anything...although it was assumed.
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8891&highlight=cobra

 

[DrumReaper]

Let's face it... There were three main factors here:

1) 50th anniversary of the Mustang...
2) Ford wanted something original (as was the 65 GT350) to transcend the pony car genre...
3) a showcase of new techno that would make a helluva roadcourse car, as such was the legendary 65 GT350R.

Those 3 factors alone deserved the right for this car to be labeled as the 350. No other moniker Ford has branded a Mustang is worthy of what this car does. This car actually made the name, and the name suits it well.

 

[UOP Shadow]

Let's face it... There were three main factors here:

1) 50th anniversary of the Mustang...
2) Ford wanted something original (as was the 65 GT350) to transcend the pony car genre...
3) a showcase of new techno that would make a helluva roadcourse car, as such was the legendary 65 GT350R.

Those 3 factors alone deserved the right for this car to be labeled as the 350. No other moniker Ford has branded a Mustang is worthy of what this car does. This car actually made the name, and the name suits it well.

GT350 was not Ford, it was Shelby.

This is mostly wrong. Among enthusiasts, many wish this would have been called an SVT Cobra again. There's a history of SE Cobras and R models already. Among people who don't know any better - perhaps calling it a Shelby would catch the eye of some. I don't think calling it a Cobra would have prevented them from selling every one they could make AND the MSRP would be the same.

Poll I did shows more people wanted to see SVT Cobra come back - this was before it was widely known that the new name would be GT350 or Shelby anything...although it was assumed.
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8891&highlight=cobra

We had a 13 GT500. Shelby didn't do any of the work on the car. I would have much rather called it an SVT Cobra. At least on the 13 / 14s, the cars had SVT branding all over them. Do the new GT350s have any SVT badging on them?

I disagree...

This is just an unsubstantiated postulation, at best.

Let's not overlook the OBVIOUS! FORD is a business. And the bottom line is that a business cares about their bottom line. They obviously thought that the Shelby name would better market their cars to allow them to make more money or they wouldn't have PAID to use it!

End of story. Put all your opinions & speculations out there. You're entitled to your opinion. But as I've said, Ford would not have PAID for the Shelby name if they didn't think it would help Ford make $$$$$$. They didn't brand the cars as "Shelby" just for fun or for free.

 

[Hack]

The car makes the name. The name doesn't make the car.

Not true. That's why Ford bought the rights to use Shelby's name. If the car had just been called an SVT Cobra, Ford would not have been able to charge as much as they did.

People PAY for the Shelby brand. Just look at prices for Shelby items to know this as fact.

So I was just trying to be a little amusing by posting a quote (albeit inexact) of Shelby. Shelby said "A car makes the name..a name does not make a car". It was on some of the marketing literature that Ford put out prior to selling the new GT350. I think it's a great marketing/sales slogan and I also think it happens to apply to the current 2015-2017 GT350. Maybe my quote was just poor enough that the reference was lost on some people.

I agree with you that the Shelby name has value and Ford bought the rights at least partially due to that value. Even if a lot of that value has more to do with heritage and Ford seems very committed to backing up the name with real performance, innovative ideas and a terrific car for the price. FWIW :cheers:

 

[Zitrosounds]

There will be another GT350 - Mark my words!

It may be a GT350 volts, lol, but there'll be another. :cheers:

hahahahaha GT350/HYBRID maybe? LOL ; )

 

[Zitrosounds]

GT350 was not Ford, it was Shelby.



We had a 13 GT500. Shelby didn't do any of the work on the car. I would have much rather called it an SVT Cobra. At least on the 13 / 14s, the cars had SVT branding all over them. Do the new GT350s have any SVT badging on them?



Let's not overlook the OBVIOUS! FORD is a business. And the bottom line is that a business cares about their bottom line. They obviously thought that the Shelby name would better market their cars to allow them to make more money or they wouldn't have PAID to use it!

End of story. Put all your opinions & speculations out there. You're entitled to your opinion. But as I've said, Ford would not have PAID for the Shelby name if they didn't think it would help Ford make $$$$$$. They didn't brand the cars as "Shelby" just for fun or for free.

GT350 was Ford. Ford asked Carol Shelby to make the car lose its family sedan appeal. Without Ford there is no Mustang. Without the Mustang there is no GT350. See how this works, Carol was just a part of the formula but the car is most definitely Ford. Please learn you GT350 history. The car, engine, suspension, all Ford. You can not have one without the other. The was the inception of the GT350. Yeah, the Shelby name is synonymous with performance, oh and Ford owns the rights, why not use it since the original was called the same. Yes, the original was assembled on Shelby plants but it is all Mustang and GT350. As many have already mentioned among car enthusiasts, we call it the GT350, period!

 

[Stuntman]

A good read on the GT350 history:

http://1965gt350mustang.com/history.html

 

[MAV]

This car could have been called a Pinto or Maverick and I would have "reassessed my priorities" to buy it. It's that good no matter what it's called.

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