Why no performance pack for the automatic GT? (outside 50th ann. ed.)

[Husker]

If you must have PP + Auto, then get your Donkey down to your local Ford Dealer and put down a deposit for the Anny version...Problem solved...Oh yeah, they don't come in Grabber Blue...Well, get it painted-->

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[Terlingua]

C'mon guys..
How long is the MY15 going to be..?
Everything changes for MY16 & beyond. These are limited edition 50th (ie: 2015) anniversary Mustangs, of a limited run... right?

Secondly, their market research might suggest, that those who want AUTOs might also, well enjoy the 300+hp ecoboost more. Plus, torque is what people like... (turbo = tq).

Even the new 600HP Corvette Z06 will be offered with an Automatic and in a Convertible… :shrug:

 

[Free Agent]

If you must have PP + Auto, then get your Donkey down to your local Ford Dealer and put down a deposit for the Anny version...Problem solved...Oh yeah, they don't come in Grabber Blue...Well, get it painted-->

Again, why pay MORE money repainting when it could have been bought stock? On top of that I extremely dislike the corralled pony on the grille, the gaudy chrome accents on the taillights and the overly large goofy looking fake gas cap.

The point is Ford is possibly losing some sales by evidently just being hard headed. Its their business but you would think they would want to attract as many buyers as they could. I will hold out for my TY automatic GT with a hopeful Brembo Brake package with gloss black wheels. They have a history of offering it with the automatic GT's so I will hope that continues.

 

[Husker]

Again, why pay MORE money repainting when it could have been bought stock? On top of that I extremely dislike the corralled pony on the grille, the gaudy chrome accents on the taillights and the overly large goofy looking fake gas cap.

The point is Ford is possibly losing some sales by evidently just being hard headed. Its their business but you would think they would want to attract as many buyers as they could. I will hold out for my TY automatic GT with a hopeful Brembo Brake package with gloss black wheels. They have a history of offering it with the automatic GT's so I will hope that continues.

Hey...I'm being sarcastic-->:cheers:

It's extremely hard, almost impossible, to find auto manufacture's offering total ala-carte options in this price range. I don't remember ever purchasing an automobile that had all the option's I wanted...

 

[wilkinda65]

Even the new 600HP Corvette Z06 will be offered with an Automatic and in a Convertible… :shrug:

I'd have to spend too much money on gaudy gold chains / bracelets and watches to be able to drive one. not sure at 48 yrs old I'm old enough for one either.

Guess I'll save the jewelry money for mustang mod money!!

 

[spectremotorsports]

Well, on the other hand we (Europeans) aren't getting the Focus sedan/coupe version at all... only the "hatchback"...

Though I think what clearly infuriates me is the idea they are still sticking with to make "packages" for the cars. Why NOT let the customer pick and choose? It's what a lot of other companies are doing (over here atleast) like Audi, BMW and Tesla...

And even MORE so when they clearly says we CAN make an auto PP (the 50th)... we just WON'T.

And didn't I read somewhere else that the PP wouldn't be offered on the convertible either?

You're correct, they've never offered it on the convertible.


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[Rickycardo]

Don't rule out the combos that Ford may put together for the Mustang. As I said before, my '11 California Special had the Boss front air dam and the pedestal rear spoiler similar to the LS with special 19" wheels and carbon fiber interior trim...with an auto! Ford seems to have no trouble pulling parts off the shelf to build a special edition. Maybe a Mach I or a bullit or another GT/CS :love: will have the options you are looking for.

 

[thePill]

The Performance Package is ment specifically for SCCA competition. I know it's money on the table but, the Performance Pack is specifically ment for racing. Automatic's are severely impeded in road racing. An automatic transmission is not ideal for track or circuit... Maybe a competition model should be considered... Bring back the Mustang GTR!!!

Get a stick...

 

[spectremotorsports]

The Performance Package is ment specifically for SCCA competition. I know it's money on the table but, the Performance Pack is specifically ment for racing. Automatic's are severely impeded in road racing. An automatic transmission is not ideal for track or circuit... Maybe a competition model should be considered... Bring back the Mustang GTR!!!

Get a stick...

As a member of the SCCA I'm a little confused as to what you're referring to. Unless you mean it's for SCCA auto X???


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[Free Agent]

Hey...I'm being sarcastic-->:cheers:

It's extremely hard, almost impossible, to find auto manufacture's offering total ala-carte options in this price range. I don't remember ever purchasing an automobile that had all the option's I wanted...

No problem. Sarcasm is lost most times in a written medium. I think what my whole point is why offer PP in the 50th ann. models then turn around and DENY that same package to any other GT automatic. Sure it makes the 50th more exclusive but tends to piss people off such as myself. Not really a solid business practice if you ask me.

And like you I'm sure I'm going to miss out on some options I want. But… at the point I miss TOO many options I want, I may go elsewhere. I've got time but I need to know these things by Summer and not wait until Fall to find out this information. ;)

 

[tbonez3858]

No convertible with the PP and Automatic is a big mistake by Ford.

I can only hope the bring back Wimbledon White for the GT350, and the GT350 is offered with an Automatic.

I already know people that are changing their order...

 

[Fenderaddict2]

One the one hand I love that the performance pack is manual only. But to benefit Ford, they should offer it on the auto. They will sell lots of them.

 

[thePill]

As a member of the SCCA I'm a little confused as to what you're referring to. Unless you mean it's for SCCA auto X???


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No, I mean the equipment that the performance pack Mustang GTR comes with was intended for the organization SCCA. Not a particular class but ALL classes the '15 is eligible for. For example, the MGTR's rotors are the SCCA maximum permitted size (380mm). The maximum front tire size is a 275mm, 285/295 are the largest size permitted with a waiver. Ford selected the components that are part of the performance package to be in accordance with the entire SCCA's rulebook. The #1 issue buyers have at the track is brakes and tire compliance, also another area most overlook while registering for the season.

None of the R&D went into an automatic performance package because automatics are not widely used for track or competition. Maybe Ford should have released a Competition Package for the GT. I would like to see the Performance Package available for the auto equipped cars and just create a Competition Model (via Mustang GTR) for serious racers. In my eyes, the Performance Package isn't really a serious jab at real racing. It will outrun the outgoing Boss 302 Laguna Seca but, I would still make some changes come competition. Ford merely took the SCCA's rulebook into consideration when equipping the GT and GTPP. The base GT has also took those rules into consideration as well...

Ford equipped the base GT with 352mm disc in front and lower than the standard 355mm SCCA max. As I said, you can apply for a waiver to up the disc size to 380mm. When designing a car that will eventually go on to dominate a certain sport, its a good practice to actually cater to the governing bodies rulebook instead of leaving the customers figure it out themselves.

That said, if a competition model were offered, people would probably still ask where the automatic version is at. Unless it is a paddle shift sequential manual, it absolutely needs to be a manual. Full control of your downshifts is priority...

FYI: The GT350 may completely avoid a 305 front tire until the rules change and allow it. It's stupidity to buy a car for track/comp for $50,000 and have trouble at registration. What do you mean I need to change the tires??? I just bought the car, it is sold as a track car...

I would like to see a Drag Package come in a automatic... Something people here haven't considered:

The 1st gear ratio in the automatic is a steep 4.17 (3.6x-3.7x for the Getrag). Consider the results of a 3.73 running a 4.17 1st gear, it pretty much makes 1st gear useless. Bringing the 3.73 down just defeats the "Performance" in the package too... Gotta keep them revs up but, with an auto, it would be shift, shift, shift, shift, shift, shift, shift, shift, shift....

 

[spectremotorsports]

Ahhh now I see what you mean, makes a little more sense now.


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[Free Agent]

I would like to see a Drag Package come in a automatic... Something people here haven't considered:

The 1st gear ratio in the automatic is a steep 4.17 (3.6x-3.7x for the Getrag). Consider the results of a 3.73 running a 4.17 1st gear, it pretty much makes 1st gear useless. Bringing the 3.73 down just defeats the "Performance" in the package too... Gotta keep them revs up but, with an auto, it would be shift, shift, shift, shift, shift, shift, shift, shift, shift....

Love to see a drag package too. And yes I have considered the steep ratio of 1st in the automatic. I think a 3.55 would be a steep as I'd want to go for what I use the car for. I'm assuming the auto will come with 3.31 gears or will it see 3.15's?

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