come on man, it's worth 7HP and 10mph in top speed. How DARE you, sir!
To be clear, there are a number of other reasons besides the stupid hood that I'm not going to buy a Camaro. I don't like being in a cave, I think the truck engines they use are crummy, the shifter and clutch seem cheap to me. I don't like the 20 inch wheels. Wheels should be as small and light as possible and putting larger wheels than necessary on a performance car irritates me. I don't like the cost of the wheels either. I could go on.
It was a joke just in case you weren't sure. It would be sacrilege to put anything but a flat 6 in there.
Ha, sarcasm is hard to read via a few words on a forum.
Your other reasons, ok. I was merely responding to what you had just stated. That "if they were discounted without the wrap" youd consider it. Your words, not mine. There are arguments for and against both the mustang AND the camaro. I preferred the better manual transmission since going from an auto to a manual again was a big deciding point for me. I love both cars. But to me, the camaro had less cons. Visibility was maybe an issue for the first 5 mins of driving the car. I can see better with it than i could my mustang now IMO
To me the Camaro's transmission doesn't seem as good as the Mustang's. The last time I drove one I was coming from the GT350, but I always liked the MT-82.
The tremec in the camaro is supposed to be much more robust even than the one in the gt350. Much less the mt82. I had the mt82 before and it was ok. Nothing special imo. The 1le comes with a short throw that feels nice to me.
This is different than a few weeks. No one here said forever. Itll need as much care and re-doing as the vinyl stripes on the shelbys (and gt with the stripe option), which he used to have a gt350. You can also remove it like the stripes. Asking for a discount due to that is silly though. You dont pay for the hood wrap, as its a small part of the 1le package. Just like you dont pay for the red paint option 6 piston front and 4 piston rear brembos. Paint also has a life that is shortened by being in direct sun, just like vinyl. Common sense. Either way the argument is irrelevant as he said he didnt like it, and @shogun32 and i both said its easy to remove. Which is why i said bs on the wrap being an issue.
I'm a nobody. Mostly what makes me better is the same thing that makes any of us better. We are creating a car for ourselves. We don't have the limitations of producing something for the open market. We can make choices which would never be feasible economically.
Wheels aren't a deal breaker. Just another annoyance. Like the cavern feeling, poor visibility and mail slot windows. No single thing is a deal breaker. But they add up.
the trans is the same as the GT350. A couple of the ratios are different is all.
You can put PPF on a wrap. They also have matte ppf.
Interesting perspective. I'm also a Mechanical engineer and studied vehicle/chassis dynamics and the IC engine as my electives in college. But, that was approaching 20 years ago and I don't work in the automotive field, so I've forgotten many of those things I learned back then.
The gt350 uses a tremec 3160..no? From my understanding its not as robust as the tremec 6060. Could be wrong.the trans is the same as the GT350. A couple of the ratios are different is all.
And the wheels are actually forged, unlike the cast mess from Ford. I don't like 20's either and there was no cause for it since pretty much all 19" aftermarket fit just fine over the 1LE 6-pot brembos just like they do on the Mustang. The 20's were a stylistic choice I'm sure - the better to mimic HotWheels matchbox cars. GM should take a cue from GT350 and give owners a velvet lined case with matchbox replica in it.
My 20's came off within 500 miles of purchase and I traded them for a set of fully-forged 18"s so I can run track compounds and slicks.