Whipple without OPG

[jrsimon27]

Not even ford performance recommends to change them when you upgrade to force induction not even roush nor whipple. People go crazy cause 2 persons on the forum had problems with them out of a zillion cars only 2 or maybe 3 people had problems it may not even be related to the superchargers maybe something else happened

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[jayman33]

Not even ford performance recommends to change them when you upgrade to force induction not even roush nor whipple. People go crazy cause 2 persons on the forum had problems with them out of a zillion cars only 2 or maybe 3 people had problems it may not even be related to the superchargers maybe something else happened

There are actually quite a bit of folks that have damaged their engine due to OPG/ CS failures. I can probably say roughly, 20 folks local to us have had some sort of OPG/ CS failure on their S550. You dont hear much about them because they're not really on Social Media.

 

[Angry50]

There are actually quite a bit of folks that have damaged their engine due to OPG/ CS failures. I can probably say roughly, 20 folks local to us have had some sort of OPG/ CS failure on their S550. You dont hear much about them because they're not really on Social Media.

when you say some sort of failure, what does that mean? i thought they failed (broke) or didnt.

 

[jayman33]

when you say some sort of failure, what does that mean? i thought they failed (broke) or didnt.

In regards to damaging the engine in some sort of way or not.

 

[pro 5.0]

Not even ford performance recommends to change them when you upgrade to force induction not even roush nor whipple. People go crazy cause 2 persons on the forum had problems with them out of a zillion cars only 2 or maybe 3 people had problems it may not even be related to the superchargers maybe something else happened

I'm not sure what class it is but there is one that runs a NA factory sealed Coyote engine and there have been OPG failures in those engines. They are now allowed to open the engine up and replace the factory OPG with a billet set, this is the way I look at it replace them for the piece of mind or roll the dice and if they blow you are going to shell out a lot more money.:doh:

 

[sigintel]

I'm not sure what class it is but there is one that runs a NA factory sealed Coyote engine and there have been OPG failures in those engines. They are now allowed to open the engine up and replace the factory OPG with a billet set, this is the way I look at it replace them for the piece of mind or roll the dice and if they blow you are going to shell out a lot more money.:doh:

http://www.nmradigital.com/nmra-coyote-stock-billet-oil-pump-gear-replacement-procedure/

 

[crs2879]

This is like asking what paint color to go with......do what makes you feel the most comfortable. Neither Ford nor Roush requires upgrading the parts with the Phase I or Phase II S/C kits. However, Roush offers an ADD-ON Warranty with the Phase I kit but not the Phase II.....the more power you add, the higher the odds of something breaking.

When I had my Phase I kit installed, I asked the shop about the OP/CG upgrade and they said they would gladly do the work, but had never seen a failure on a street car......but members here will tell you theirs broke......there are no guarantees.

 

[808muscle]

I happen to call Whipple today to ask about a stage 2 setup. The tech mentioned its good insurance upgrading the OPG, timing chain guides and sprocket. Im on the fence about it. My car is an auto, I wont be racing it, only a street car.

 

[Whipple SC]

If your not racing, if your a daily driver, then you will most likely never have an issue. We highly, highly recommend staying with the stock balancer. If you change the balancer, you must change the OPG/TG.

During our 30k mileage testing of torturing our vehicles, including OEM testing on the track, we never had a failure. We also tested in the wind tunnel to do WOTshifting at 4-5, 5-6 which is 200+mph, the gear pulls a long time to get there.

So yes, cheap insurance, certainly can't hurt, but by no means mandatory for daily driver.

 

[808muscle]

If your not racing, if your a daily driver, then you will most likely never have an issue. We highly, highly recommend staying with the stock balancer. If you change the balancer, you must change the OPG/TG.

During our 30k mileage testing of torturing our vehicles, including OEM testing on the track, we never had a failure. We also tested in the wind tunnel to do WOTshifting at 4-5, 5-6 which is 200+mph, the gear pulls a long time to get there.

So yes, cheap insurance, certainly can't hurt, but by no means mandatory for daily driver.

Good info, thanks for chiming in.

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