Curious
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So, I will caveat that I don't own a Mustang and I've browsed/searched the forums prior to asking this (the answers vary quite a bit). I also used to own Mustang's myself and try to keep abreast of how they perform and their particular nuances. With that being said, I'm curious about the performance metrics of these 3.0 Whipples on 3rd Gen Coyote's, specifically with an A10 and ways they can separate from each other in performance. I have a few people I've encountered with Whipple's on their cars with varying supporting mods but, they seem to be performing drastically different for what seems to me, as nominal differences that while they may be impactful, don't quite seem to add up.
Car 1: Whipple 3.0, stock pulley, full exhaust (no cats), canned tune, A10, street tires no passenger seat or back seats. He told me his mods.
Car 2: Whipple 3.0, stock pulley, full exhaust (cats), custom 93 tune, A10, drag pack, race seats, no back seats. I feel like he's told me most of his mods.
Car 3: Whipple 3.0, mystery pulley (he's coy about his setup), full exhaust, E85, A10, drag pack, race seat, no back seats. I've only heard from others about his setup and have looked over his car myself.
Now, Car 2 and 3 have had their oil pump gears done, etc. Specificity withstanding, I can see how there might be notable and clear differences between the cars and their straight line metrics but, they seem to be worlds apart in performance.
Car 1 seems quick but, if I had to guess, it probably runs a mid 7-second 60-130, generously.
Car 2 is noticeably quicker and if I had to guess, likely runs about a second or so faster than Car 1 in the 60-130 range; Car 1 and Car 2 have raced and there was a sizable gap between the two.
Car 3 is in a completely different realm of performance, apparently. Running somewhere around the mid to high 4-second range.
Because I race "against" them, none of them are willing to divulge specifics that may make big differences between their setups. I only know loose information about Car 3 but, I was told by a close friend of his that his 60-130 was in that range, which puts him awfully close to me.
Yes, I understand that each car has more impactful mods and therefore should be quicker but, for those of you out there who have gone from a mid 7-second 60-130 to now running in the mid to high 4's, you understand how large of a gulf in performance that is. So, if someone could help me identify what the overt differences must be between these cars to see them use the same blower but have drastically different metrics, that would be helpful. Aside from the pulley size and E85, it surprises me to see them perform so differently with the same blower and no other overt mods (nitrous, meth, gutted/stripped, etc.). I suspect that Car 3 must have larger injectors and fuel pump (maybe a boost-a-pump) to support his power level but, word round campfire is that he's in the four-digit wheel horsepower range.
While we are all friendly with each other and none of us race each other for money, I must admit that I don't care for the mystery mods that seem to separate these three cars. So if anyone could shed some light, that would be fantastic. Car 1 and 2 have raced me so, that's settled but I have yet to race Car 3. While I have put down quicker 60-130 times than what was conveyed to me about his car, I'm wondering how easy he could close that gap with a modification that I can't readily identify.
Car 1: Whipple 3.0, stock pulley, full exhaust (no cats), canned tune, A10, street tires no passenger seat or back seats. He told me his mods.
Car 2: Whipple 3.0, stock pulley, full exhaust (cats), custom 93 tune, A10, drag pack, race seats, no back seats. I feel like he's told me most of his mods.
Car 3: Whipple 3.0, mystery pulley (he's coy about his setup), full exhaust, E85, A10, drag pack, race seat, no back seats. I've only heard from others about his setup and have looked over his car myself.
Now, Car 2 and 3 have had their oil pump gears done, etc. Specificity withstanding, I can see how there might be notable and clear differences between the cars and their straight line metrics but, they seem to be worlds apart in performance.
Car 1 seems quick but, if I had to guess, it probably runs a mid 7-second 60-130, generously.
Car 2 is noticeably quicker and if I had to guess, likely runs about a second or so faster than Car 1 in the 60-130 range; Car 1 and Car 2 have raced and there was a sizable gap between the two.
Car 3 is in a completely different realm of performance, apparently. Running somewhere around the mid to high 4-second range.
Because I race "against" them, none of them are willing to divulge specifics that may make big differences between their setups. I only know loose information about Car 3 but, I was told by a close friend of his that his 60-130 was in that range, which puts him awfully close to me.
Yes, I understand that each car has more impactful mods and therefore should be quicker but, for those of you out there who have gone from a mid 7-second 60-130 to now running in the mid to high 4's, you understand how large of a gulf in performance that is. So, if someone could help me identify what the overt differences must be between these cars to see them use the same blower but have drastically different metrics, that would be helpful. Aside from the pulley size and E85, it surprises me to see them perform so differently with the same blower and no other overt mods (nitrous, meth, gutted/stripped, etc.). I suspect that Car 3 must have larger injectors and fuel pump (maybe a boost-a-pump) to support his power level but, word round campfire is that he's in the four-digit wheel horsepower range.
While we are all friendly with each other and none of us race each other for money, I must admit that I don't care for the mystery mods that seem to separate these three cars. So if anyone could shed some light, that would be fantastic. Car 1 and 2 have raced me so, that's settled but I have yet to race Car 3. While I have put down quicker 60-130 times than what was conveyed to me about his car, I'm wondering how easy he could close that gap with a modification that I can't readily identify.
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