WHAT TUNER???

[beefcake]

Ya'll dyno a Stock GT PP @ 395rwhp seems a little high. Everyone else is claiming 375-389rwhp. Now i see why your claiming 422rwhp.

every car is different, every dyno is different

our auto car dyno'd 340's on our stingy dyno

I see plenty of cars get beat by cars with higher dyno numbers

the biggest thing to look at is the changes

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[bakerjd]

"Wait for the N-Gauge" - bakerjd

This! Go with a Lund Racing tune as soon as it's available and you'll be ready to go!

 

[ATTFighter]

sct does currently have limitations

we can tune with the same hypertech box as well, or the n gauge will be available in a couple of weeks

Beefcake, for those of us like myself who already have the sct x4 and plan on going with a custom dyno tune with Ken Lund, am I going to be at a disadvantage with what he can do with my car on the dyno using the x4?

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[bakerjd]

Beefcake, for those of us like myself who already have the sct x4 and plan on going with a custom dyno tune with Ken Lund, am I going to be at a disadvantage with what he can do with my car on the dyno using the x4?

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There is another option available through Lund Racing but if you plan to go with Lund, speaking from experience, the X4 will be obsolete and it's only use will be for datalogging until the N-gauge is released.

 

[15GTBEN]

What is the best tuner to go with? 2015 5.0 GT Automatic, JLT cold air kit(not installed yet), Driveshaft Shop 1 piece aluminum driveshaft, Gibson cat back. Thanks in advance for any help!

Ive owned the SCTX3, X4 and Intune for my 12 and 14 GT's. The SCTX4 is more user friendly, updates and loads tunes WAY faster than Intune. There will be a lot more tuners willing to tune with SCT than Intune. SCT has much better datalogging capability and more granular tuning capabilities.
The main selling point for intune is that it is supposedly completely ''stealth'' after going back to stock.

 

[ATTFighter]

There is another option available through Lund Racing but if you plan to go with Lund, speaking from experience, the X4 will be obsolete and it's only use will be for datalogging until the N-gauge is released.

Well, I live local to PowerByHour in South Florida, and I'll be doing a dyno tune with Lund there after they install my headers and cai... But I have the sct x4 I just bought. I don't see why it should be an issue when it comes to tuning it.

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[Nye]

every car is different, every dyno is different

our auto car dyno'd 340's on our stingy dyno

I see plenty of cars get beat by cars with higher dyno numbers

the biggest thing to look at is the changes

My ponit exactly!!

 

[bakerjd]

Well, I live local to PowerByHour in South Florida, and I'll be doing a dyno tune with Lund there after they install my headers and cai... But I have the sct x4 I just bought. I don't see why it should be an issue when it comes to tuning it.

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Shouldn't be any problem. They'll load the tune on the spot. The X4 will only be good for datalogging. As stated earlier, the SCT doesn't have all of the parameters unlocked and limits certain aspects of the tune. By you having them tune in person, you're golden. I'm just saying there is another option that is ideal and will be much better coming VERY soon.

 

[beefcake]

Beefcake, for those of us like myself who already have the sct x4 and plan on going with a custom dyno tune with Ken Lund, am I going to be at a disadvantage with what he can do with my car on the dyno using the x4?

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I think sct will eventually open up more parameters in the tuning.

at this time, the x4 is a bit of a disadvantage compared to the hypertech box or the ngauge,

I do expect it to get better, I don't know if power adder tunes will be supported though

when your as good at what you do like lund is, it's important that they protect their intellectual data.

there is a reason they have more sub 9 second coyotes than anyone out there, there is a reason they have the record in the standing mile,

there is a reason they have the quickest gt500's in the country

people can blow all the smoke they want, at the end of the day, the numbers speak for themselves

 

[ATTFighter]

I think sct will eventually open up more parameters in the tuning.

at this time, the x4 is a bit of a disadvantage compared to the hypertech box or the ngauge,

I do expect it to get better, I don't know if power adder tunes will be supported though

when your as good at what you do like lund is, it's important that they protect their intellectual data.

there is a reason they have more sub 9 second coyotes than anyone out there, there is a reason they have the record in the standing mile,

there is a reason they have the quickest gt500's in the country

people can blow all the smoke they want, at the end of the day, the numbers speak for themselves

I see what you are saying, however, am I correct when I say: If you are getting a custom dyno tune rather than a canned tuned the sct x4 is just being used to store the tune and will not effect the actual tuning itself?

 

[Vile_the_Bastage]

I see what you are saying, however, am I correct when I say: If you are getting a custom dyno tune rather than a canned tuned the sct x4 is just being used to store the tune and will not effect the actual tuning itself?

Yeah, this is what i want to know. I have an SCT X4 on the way right now, but I see that apparently it has limited capability. Will it at least be useful for storing and uploading custom dyno tunes?

 

[anotherneon]

My take on all this...
I haven't been happy with my Bama Tune and realized that Bama can only do so much with the X4. I will just leave it at that. I decided to reach out to Jon Lund II. Jon gave me the low down. I appreciate his time and customer service. I'm looking forward to getting their tuner and tune on my car. They have some killer stuff coming out in the future. If you have questions you should call them.

Like Beef stated... the SCT X4 is very limited in parameters that can be adjusted. That's why Lund and Livernois are showing significantly better numbers with their equipment and their experience.

I think if you're on a budget and standard tune is all your looking for, anyone that tunes with a X4 will be great for you. If you don't mind spending the extra money to get the most out of your Mustang and fine tune it... you go with Lund or Livernois. IMO...

I couldnt find a contact number for them...

 

[dgc333]

Unless I am missing something the SCT x4, Diablosport InTune, Cobb Access Port, etc are just devices to allow tunes to be downloaded into the flash memory of the ecu and display/datalog parameters. As long as they are electrically compatible with the cars hardware they will not become obsolete other than adding more bells & whistle features.

They are not used create tunes that is done with other hardware/software. Whether this hardware/software has the ability to access all of the parameters necessary for the best tune is another question but I am quite sure this equipment will be updated to do the job and you will be able to use your current device to install it on your car.

I purchased a SCT X4 a little over a year ago to use to tune my Focus ST right after it superceded the X3. There has been a couple of firmware updates to the device to add features and allow it to support other Ford products. Almost every time I plug it in there is a new tune file update as they refine existing tunes and add new ones to support additional vehicles.

I purchased the device from Steeda which included their tunes for life. The device also had tunes for the ST that were developed by SCT.

 

[SVTFreak]

Dgc, you are correct. The tuners (person) has software to modify parameters. This outputs a file that the handheld can use and upload to the computer. If it helps you understand, today's ecus work like a database. The handheld inputs data into storage in that database overwriting what's there.

The software that the tuner (person) uses just puts what's in the database in the car into a gui that is understandable. It has to put the right values in the right tables exactly like the ecu would use and have all the formulas that are used when taking one calculation into another. If those tables and formulas aren't right, or are missing (as is rumored the case with sct atm), then full tune ability isn't doable. But rest assured, some very very intelligent people are working on it.

As a side note, I work at a chemical plant. Now I'm a production supervisor but I come from controls background. We just converted my unit with the latest and greatest control system. And what's in these cars is light years ahead of that (we are a huge company also). My 91 mustang, which I tune myself using an emulator (slightly different than database), has better tuning ability than the one at the plant also! It's actually quite astonishing what they can do.

I remember when the 11 5.0 came out, reading that it took the guy that wrote the program 9 months to get it right. He said one of the hardest things was the bump start on ignition key but he had to get it right due to the desire to use push button start in the 15.

 

[AMAlexLazarus]

Shouldn't be any problem. They'll load the tune on the spot. The X4 will only be good for datalogging. As stated earlier, the SCT doesn't have all of the parameters unlocked and limits certain aspects of the tune. By you having them tune in person, you're golden. I'm just saying there is another option that is ideal and will be much better coming VERY soon.

Yeah, this is what i want to know. I have an SCT X4 on the way right now, but I see that apparently it has limited capability. Will it at least be useful for storing and uploading custom dyno tunes?

Just to do a little clarifying since I think there's somewhat skewed information in here. Not totally wrong, but just a little twisted around...

We actually have customers putting down great times in the Automatic 2015 GT's on tunes we sell from Bama. I'm not sure where the information is being passed around that there's a ton missing in the SCT software, but it's not 100% true.

All of the necessary parameters are in the software to make a car go fast. In fact, all of the necessary parameters are in SCT's software in order to give a car a killer street/strip tune. Bama just had a customer run a 12.3 in their 2015 Auto with noting but a Cold Air Intake and a 93 octane Bama V2 Race Tune and Nitto 555's (not 555R's).

From what we've seen the Bama team uses multiple pieces of software and any time they found something that they've needed to properly calibrate, they've notified SCT and had it added. They're one of the reasons that new parameters are coming out every day. I'd love to hear about any specific "missing parameters" that are holding SCT tuners back. The results say otherwise - strictly from a device standpoint, not talking about quality of tunes or starting a war with anyone here.

Again from a device-standpoint, the SCT tuner is far better in terms of functionality than what else is currently out there IMO.

Hope this helps!

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