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[Rated R]

The other problem is the KTM dirtbike - make sure you budget another 10K for repairs :headbonk:

<<<Owner of a '12 300 XC-W. 100 hours on it, zero problems...

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[Shakooza]

These cars will be sitting on the lots in a year with incentives. This is a regular production car. Unless you need a car, let the air fall out of the market..I'm not paying a dealers frivolous markup EVER.

The GT350 is the hottest thing on the market right now in this price point because no M2 and no 1le..You pay to be an early adopter..

 

[Obrien455]

I am in a kind of a similar predicament realizing I may not be able to get the GT 350...im 26 and have never had a sports car but i have been saving to buy a shelby for a long while...started thinking of getting a 12' gt 500 if i cant get my hands on a msrp 350any thoughts? Would i be happy with it or should i think about shelling out some extra cash for the 13 500?

 

[Rogue]

The 5k ADM isn't nearly as bad as that swift kick in the balls you'll get when it comes time to sell a 38k GT with mass production depreciation. I say don't pay a small fortune for a car because it has the same headlights as a GT350 - wait until you can get exactly what you want.

 

[stanglife]

Correct, good to see that there are others who get it and aren't falling for all the hype and nonsense.

It's funny to continually see people predicting things that they really have no way of knowing. Crystal balls must have been on sale recently.

OP - if the 350 is a stretch for you - the GT is certainly a great deal for the performance and the engine is very proven...regarded one of the best ever. A buddy of mine just bought one for $35k with track pack and got Fords 0% for 70 months deal...pretty good deal and has me wondering why I'm paying TWICE that for a 350R.

 

[obgod3]

<<<Owner of a '12 300 XC-W. 100 hours on it, zero problems...

Yeh gotta agree, I have owned many KTM's and never a single major issue, basically maintence and the parts for those are no more than a Japanese bike. Never understood why people think those things. One of my best bikes is 13 year old KTM that runs fantastic, nothing but oil changes and wear items.

As far as the car I'll wait and see what happens. Not in a rush and I feel like the dealer is just calling down his list since most of their customers waiting for a 350 are bailing at the first word of an adm. Let's see how it plays out.

But a regular GT just seems like a hell of a deal for what you get. Shoot a guy I know just got a Golf R and paid the same as what a GT is, that to me is crazy.

 

[Hack]

So I had resigned myself to the fact that a GT350 wasn't in the cards for me. Couple reasons, first the dealers in the mountain states don't sell a lot of mustangs so in our case our dealer didn't get an allocation. Second I still like the pricing of the regular GT and the ability to have so many ways to personalize it.

My only reason for wanting the 350 was the motor, ok maybe the body also.

So my dealer called me yesterday. If I'm willing to pay a 5K ADM I can get a 350. So about 63K. I'm very opposed to ADM out of principle. Now I have the money for it but I'm a cheap bastard these days and know I can get a GT premium for 38k. I know it is a totally different car and I do want a DD out of this also. I love the 350 but don't know if it will be practical. I also plan on retiring in 7 years so while I like dirt bikes and cars I also don't want to have to work extra time to have them.

One other thing, they told me ford is going to build 4000 a year for a two year run, he suspects the GT500 will be back then. I don't want to argue this but I've known these guys a long time and have no reason not to believe them.

Gotta think about this one.

I could see it's a tough decision. If you are that close to retirement you realize that $25k won't matter at this point. However, with the extra $25k you could take the GT to the track all the time. Believe me when I say the GT is an entirely different car on the track compared to on the street. If you want a trackable car, you can get the GT PP and travel around the country trying out different road courses. If you have to stretch a lot to get the GT350, you'll kick yourself when you have the car but can't afford to have fun with it.

I'm with him. ^ That's a big difference when you are looking at retiring in a few years. $25k goes a long way.

$25k is a lot if you invest it in your 20s, but if you are 7 years from retirement it won't make that much difference. There's just no time for it to grow into real money. $25k would get you by for just a few months if you are living life. IMO $25k is nothing compared to a serious retirement savings. Nothing at all. Now if your idea of retirement is sitting home in a cheap house doing nothing, well then you can stretch $25k a long time. I'd rather work than retire with no money to spend.

Couple things I would factor in is how many DD miles I would be putting on the car. A lot of DD miles and I would lean towards the GT. You mention retirement and if this is might be your last hurrah so to speak to get a vehicle at this price point while still working then I say go for it. If you can afford to treat yourself to a car like this when retired then perhaps taking a step back and letting the dust settle is the best move.

You only live once and you might as well enjoy it while you can.

I sure hope they have more than a 2 year run or come up with something better to offer around the same price point summer 2017. Love to put a gt350 in my garage and retire.

Good points. Who knows how well the Voodoo will hold up over time. It's a risk. And buying one in 2-3 years in really good used condition that uncertainty will be gone and the price will most likely be lower (and no ADM).

These cars will be sitting on the lots in a year with incentives. This is a regular production car. Unless you need a car, let the air fall out of the market..I'm not paying a dealers frivolous markup EVER.

The GT350 is the hottest thing on the market right now in this price point because no M2 and no 1le..You pay to be an early adopter..

It's possible you are right, but I think the odds are extremely low. Only time will tell. No dealers around here that I've talked to are getting more than one per year, so car(s) sitting on lots around here is unlikely. I should say that some dealers will have one, not on their lot in their showroom, and it will be marked at $10k or $20k over MSRP. Those are the kind of numbers the local dealers are talking, and they are confident they will get it. I don't think a year is long enough for your prediction to come true. Possibly in 2 or 3, especially if Ford keeps making GT350s and makes quite a few of them.

The 5k ADM isn't nearly as bad as that swift kick in the balls you'll get when it comes time to sell a 38k GT with mass production depreciation. I say don't pay a small fortune for a car because it has the same headlights as a GT350 - wait until you can get exactly what you want.

I think the GT350 will also depreciate. It depends on how quickly you end up selling how much this will hurt.

It's funny to continually see people predicting things that they really have no way of knowing. Crystal balls must have been on sale recently.

OP - if the 350 is a stretch for you - the GT is certainly a great deal for the performance and the engine is very proven...regarded one of the best ever. A buddy of mine just bought one for $35k with track pack and got Fords 0% for 70 months deal...pretty good deal and has me wondering why I'm paying TWICE that for a 350R.

Agreed. I've been torn and feeling like I should stick with my GT or buy a lightly used GT500. I'm used to having a lot of extra cash for different things that might come up. Pushing the finances is not a good thing.

 

[mustang5o]

. I'd rather work than retire with no money to spend.

Amen to that.

I am in a kind of a similar predicament realizing I may not be able to get the GT 350...im 26 and have never had a sports car but i have been saving to buy a shelby for a long while...started thinking of getting a 12' gt 500 if i cant get my hands on a msrp 350any thoughts? Would i be happy with it or should i think about shelling out some extra cash for the 13 500?

Wanting a Shelby is great but these are two different animals. The GT500 was really never touted as a great track (road course) car. With some mods you can get it there just like a standard GT. Now if you want to drag race, and get some good meat on the back, the GT500 would be perfect for that. If you want a show car or to just drive then it's a toss up. At that point I'd just get the best one I could afford but I'd lean towards a 13/14 GT500 personally. Although for just a driver/show car you could also just try to get a base GT350.

 

[Rogue]

I think the GT350 will also depreciate. It depends on how quickly you end up selling how much this will hurt.

Depreciation is generally a given for any car. It's the rate it happens which varies - for the most part high performance Ford's such as Shelby and Boss 302 edition Mustangs hold value extremely well. For instance I purchased a brand new Boss 302 Laguna Seca for MSRP $50,465 off a Ford showroom floor in 2012. I raced the hell out of it at the top tracks in Florida/Georgia/NOLA for 3 years and put over 24,000 miles on it (a lot of miles for a Laguna).

Earlier this month I drove it over to a local Ford dealership - 20 minutes later they agreed to wire $40,000 cash for the car. Handed them the keys and shook hands.

Sure these cars depreciate, but the difference is you don't lose your ass!

 

[Snakedriver]

Get the GT350 the GT is Generic.

 

[stanglife]

Sounds like your crystal ball is more accurate than ours!

You just made zero sense.

I did not speculate - simply (simple to some readers, anyway) stated that these are just guesses and people do not know the future. Get it?

 

[Shakooza]

It's funny to continually see people predicting things that they really have no way of knowing. Crystal balls must have been on sale recently.

OP - if the 350 is a stretch for you - the GT is certainly a great deal for the performance and the engine is very proven...regarded one of the best ever. A buddy of mine just bought one for $35k with track pack and got Fords 0% for 70 months deal...pretty good deal and has me wondering why I'm paying TWICE that for a 350R.

There is obviously speculation on anything a year out. We know that the GT 350 is a regular production car. We know that there will be a bubble of demand at the start. We know that the GT350 is going to have stiff competition from something Chevy puts on the road and M2. The odds of a normal production car that shouldn't have limited availability sitting on the lots is very high. We know that even limited run american made sports car have ended up sitting on lots..

The Z28s are sitting on lots with massive incentives while people were fighting over them and the Z28 was MUCH more limited run than a normal production GT350. The only American sports car that has been an exception that I can think of is the hellcat. The rumors are Dodge is ramping up production and they expect Hellcats to be readily available in six months for sticker...

There are only so many buyers of a 50-65k regular production Mustang....

 

[stanglife]

There is obviously speculation on anything a year out. We know that the GT 350 is a regular production car. We know that there will be a bubble of demand at the start. We know that the GT350 is going to have stiff competition from something Chevy puts on the road and M2. The odds of a normal production car that shouldn't have limited availability sitting on the lots is very high. We know that even limited run american made sports car have ended up sitting on lots..

The Z28s are sitting on lots with massive incentives while people were fighting over them and the Z28 was MUCH more limited run than a normal production GT350. The only American sports car that has been an exception that I can think of is the hellcat. The rumors are Dodge is ramping up production and they expect Hellcats to be readily available in six months for sticker...

There are only so many buyers of a 50-65k regular production Mustang....

All true. Two things I'm seeing as differentiators are 1 - how hard Ford is marketing this one...more hype than ever..makes me think that these might not sit on the lots like the previous cars. 2 - More than ever before, this car is attracting customers from other brands...it's no longer only mustang-loyal buyers.

 

[Mustang1260]

Good to see another enthusiast who can think for himself and see thru the hype. The initial bubble of demand for these kind of offerings really brings out the goon in some people. Don't be a sucker, let history be your guide.

History is the guide....Ford NEVER gives incentives on limited edition cars...You will NEVER see an incentive on a GT350..........

 

[Mustang1260]

Sounds like your crystal ball is more accurate than ours!

everyone's crystal ball is more accurate then yours....

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