What the ####!!!!!

[1 old racer]

'Shockingly high' gas bills headed for Southern California
https://ktla.com/news/california/shockingly-high-gas-bill-headed-your-way-socalgas/

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[Slopoke]

My home in the Greater Bay Area, has had a PV system for the last 8 years and at the end of the year, I've always had a surplus of around 600 KWhs at True Up. That was until I started using space heaters in each room. I've cut my winter natural gas bill by about 50%. I set the thermostat to 56 at night and 60 during the day. My wife and kids use electric blankets so the low temps in the house at night aren't a problem. Tracking my electricity useage, I should have a little in overproduction or break even. Since I only get the wholesale rate for my excess, I figured, I might as well use it and save on natural gas.

 

[key01]

60 during the day

my family would move out if I did that to them. Lol
Natural gas is up everywhere. 2x-3x here ( Midwest) over the past couple years and we use way more than just about any region in California.

 

[Slopoke]

my family would move out if I did that to them. Lol
Natural gas is up everywhere. 2x-3x here ( Midwest) over the past couple years and we use way more than just about any region in California.

We've been doing this for about 5 years now. I love the cold. The wife and kids never complained at all. The thermostat for upstairs and downstairs are set cold, but since each room has a space heater, they are usually around 65-66 degrees for a typical occupied room. It's important to keep the doors to the room that have the heaters on closed, to retain the heat. I forgot to add, the wife has a electric blanket in the family room when she is watching TV. For me, when I go to bed, I set the heater in the room to High and set the automatic shut off for 2 hours.

 

[key01]

We've been doing this for about 5 years now. I love the cold. The wife and kids never complained at all. The thermostat for upstairs and downstairs are set cold, but since each room has a space heater, they are usually around 65-66 degrees for a typical occupied room. It's important to keep the doors to the room that have the heaters on closed, to retain the heat. I forgot to add, the wife has a electric blanket in the family room when she is watching TV. For me, when I go to bed, I set the heater in the room to High and set the automatic shut off for 2 hours.

Ah okay, that makes a lot more sense. I agree that heating rooms in use as opposed to the whole house will definitely save on that heating bill.

 

[Slopoke]

Ah okay, that makes a lot more sense. I agree that heating rooms in use as opposed to the whole house will definitely save on that heating bill.

When my HVAC system is due for a replacement, I plan on going ductless/minisplit. Those systems are basically a heat pump. I have it in one of my rentals and works great. Each room will have an air handler and one condenser can run IIRC up to 3 air handlers. So, basically each room will have it's own HVAC system. I have a friend in Los Angeles, that installed my ductless in my rental down there. He's been so nice as to take a "Road Trip" 5 years ago up here to Northern California to do a total HVAC replacement in my residence and two months ago, he did a "Road Trip" to do my mother in laws HVAC system. He will be doing my ductless in my home when the time comes.

 

[Rapid Red]

my family would move out if I did that to them. Lol
Natural gas is up everywhere. 2x-3x here ( Midwest) over the past couple years and we use way more than just about any region in California.

I'm not seeing that house, water, dryer, & stove are all heated using gas. Today paid the bill 132xx for the month.

 

[Slopoke]

Here is a screenshot of my Dec bill for gas. Total for gas and electricity was $63.43

 

[Inthehighdesert]

There’s frugal, then there’s….

Here is a screenshot of my Dec bill for gas. Total for gas and electricity was $63.43

 

[Slopoke]

There’s frugal, then there’s….

Yeah, I've been called a "Cheap Charlie" many times, the savings all add up. But I have no problems spending 3+K for a custom forged receiver M14, carbon road bikes, etc.

 

[Rapid Red]

Cheap is not a sign of achievement it is a sign of desperation

 

[Slopoke]

Cheap is not a sign of achievement it is a sign of desperation

If that's what you want to term it, so be it. Works for me.

 

[Inthehighdesert]

To each there own. I’ve had friends in the past that were like that. They were difficult to be around.

Yeah, I've been called a "Cheap Charlie" many times, the savings all add up. But I have no problems spending 3+K for a custom forged receiver M14, carbon road bikes, etc.

 

[Cobra Jet]

It’s greed and nothing more ….

Big Corp walking all over everyone and no one can do a thing about it…

 

[Inthehighdesert]

I think it’s just called life. It is what it is. Just have to adapt and work through it the best you can.

It’s greed and nothing more ….

Big Corp walking all over everyone and no one can do a thing about it…

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