Track Package or Tech Package ????

[TheLeftSchuh]

Would anyone think it is foolish to assume that the aftermarket will eventually produce a plug and play transmission cooler for the tech pack?

Seems like an external pump would fix the difference between tech/track models while the cooler could still be placed in the front passenger side corner like on the track version.

I thought I had thoroughly answered the track vs. tech debate but I'm beginning to waver again... too much time in between order and delivery I guess (next I'll start second guessing my color combo again... that black roof is nice!).

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[bmailpb]

Would anyone think it is foolish to assume that the aftermarket will eventually produce a plug and play transmission cooler for the tech pack?

Seems like an external pump would fix the difference between tech/track models while the cooler could still be placed in the front passenger side corner like on the track version.

I thought I had thoroughly answered the track vs. tech debate but I'm beginning to waver again... too much time in between order and delivery I guess (next I'll start second guessing my color combo again... that black roof is nice!).

They *MIGHT*, but probably not. And if they do, it will be expensive. They have to look at the ROI on that kit. Lets say that Ford sells a total of 6,000 GT350's in 2 years (I'm making the assumption that it will be 2016/2017 only, excluding the few 2015's). Of that, maybe 50% are tech pack. So, that's 3,000 of those. Now, lets say that a VERY VERY GENEROUS 10% of those guys want to go track their car enough that they decide to do the upgrade. That would be 300 cars. (number is probably closer to 5%, but neither here nor there).

Now, I'm a company developing the solution. I have my fabricator working on it. I spend time and money buying supplies and I produce a few different versions. I test it on the street, on the track, test some more, and then it is finally ready for sale. Between hard costs, employee costs, and opportunity costs, I'm into it for $100,000.

Assuming I am the only person and I can capture all 300 sales, the price of the part starts at $333 to cover my R&D. You add the cost of the parts to produce the kit. I like my family to eat, so I add profit on top of that. You're looking at a $1500+ kit. Do you still get 300 sales? Probably not...

 

[krt22]

100k is a bit steep since adding a cooler to a transmission is nothing new or novel, plenty have done it for all sorts of applications (heck I even did it to my POS honda accord v6 to keep it from grenading)

The only tricky part will be if the tranny needs to be drilled and tapped for fittings which will greatly increase the labor cost of the install

And as of now 60% of the cars are tech pack and im guessing total sales will be 4000+ per year (they already have 2016 VINs northing of 3000)

 

[racingandfishing]

After hearing about the tranny temp issues it may be good to wait for announcements on 2017 models. Ford may offer option for tech and track pkgs.

As for us with tech pack cars I hold out hope the duct to send air into the tranny tunnel will be effective along with shielding the exhaust from the tranny. If that fails the aftermarket will come to the rescue I'm sure since 40% or more 350's are sold as tech packs.

Not sure how effective it will be, but there is a transmission cooler "scoop" on page 21 of the 2016 Ford performance catalog. Looks like they go for about $199 online.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/download/catalogs/2016/index.html#20

 

[zombiekiller]

They *MIGHT*, but probably not. And if they do, it will be expensive. They have to look at the ROI on that kit. Lets say that Ford sells a total of 6,000 GT350's in 2 years (I'm making the assumption that it will be 2016/2017 only, excluding the few 2015's). Of that, maybe 50% are tech pack. So, that's 3,000 of those. Now, lets say that a VERY VERY GENEROUS 10% of those guys want to go track their car enough that they decide to do the upgrade. That would be 300 cars. (number is probably closer to 5%, but neither here nor there).

Now, I'm a company developing the solution. I have my fabricator working on it. I spend time and money buying supplies and I produce a few different versions. I test it on the street, on the track, test some more, and then it is finally ready for sale. Between hard costs, employee costs, and opportunity costs, I'm into it for $100,000.

Assuming I am the only person and I can capture all 300 sales, the price of the part starts at $333 to cover my R&D. You add the cost of the parts to produce the kit. I like my family to eat, so I add profit on top of that. You're looking at a $1500+ kit. Do you still get 300 sales? Probably not...

This is a REALLY ridiculous way of looking at it.

I've already posted a rough idea of how to accomplish the 3GPM spec with an electric pump designed for feeding oil to turbos in another thread.

We're talking $300 for a pump ( retail). Potentially 200-300 bucks ( retail for something REALLY nice) for the actual cooler and lines to support it.

All thats left is a simple $25 thermal switch and the fittings to plumb it into the trans.

Add in the testing, etc and its not crazy to think at a volume of 800 parts, you could look towards a relative gross profit margin of 10-12 points

that would make you 100,000 or so of potential profit off of the exercise.

 

[Bender]

Wait for the 2017. The new packages/features have been posted in another thread. Coolers/magneride are standard now

 

[firefisher]

Wait for the 2017. The new packages/features have been posted in another thread. Coolers/magneride are standard now

Well I guess the 2017's answered this question for me. No need to discuss further.
I did get a chance to sit in both the tech seats and the track recaro seats recently, and for me, the recaro's are a must if your going to track the car even for just a few sessions. Although I'm over 200 lbs, I have a small torso the lateral support in the recaro's is for me, much better. The difference reminds me of the 911 gt3 I used to have. The 18 way seats with heat and very comfortable vs the manual low sitting position GT2 carbon fiber seats which were the better choice for the support.

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