Thinking about ditching BMR springs

[Roadway 5.0]

Thankfully not surgeons. I'd rather not be peppered to taste... :shrug:

:lol: I always wondered why I had such bad heartburn after having my tonsils out.

All in good taste (pun intended) gentlemen, and no offense meant. Engineers make the world go fast...I'm glad to just drive the final products.

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[cjldad]

Cool. That is exactly what I was thinking of doing, so good to hear some confirmation. 1/8 ends up becoming a 1/4 difference in height.

The final question still remains: has anyone had any real-world experience with both the Ford track shocks/struts as well as the Steeda pro action ones? I've read independent reviews of both and everyone seems to be happy with them, but not sure if there has ever been a head2head.

I'm trying to wrap my mind around this situation.. I know exactly what you are talking about with the rear not being low enough compared to the front, I get that part.. But to do the steeda rear and add a 1/8 spacer, you've only lowered the rear .25" more than where you are now.. I'm basing that on the BMR rear springs at .5" drop and the steeda at 1" of drop.. Is .25" going to change it enough to satisfy you?

 

[cjldad]

ALSO, Ebay is having a 20% off sale today up to $100 off...
You can get the FRPP struts/shocks for $527 shipped after coupon..

 

[Roadway 5.0]

I'll try to help with a couple more pictures. 1/4" spacer in the rear with Ultralites, 1/2 tank of fuel, and no spare tire (PP):

 

[whalesalad]

I'm trying to wrap my mind around this situation.. I know exactly what you are talking about with the rear not being low enough compared to the front, I get that part.. But to do the steeda rear and add a 1/8 spacer, you've only lowered the rear .25" more than where you are now.. I'm basing that on the BMR rear springs at .5" drop and the steeda at 1" of drop.. Is .25" going to change it enough to satisfy you?

I'm not sure what is going on with my car but take a look. The front is either way lower than it is supposed to be, or the rear is higher than it is supposed to be? All I know is it looks ridiculous and definitely concerns me ... this car is already very front-heavy.

I want the car to be proportionally lowered. My gameplan is to try the ultralite's but I will order a 1/8" spacer just in case the rear ends up being too low. If it looks fine after installation, I'll leave the spacer out. If I sense reverse rake, I'll drop the rear and throw the spacer in.

It looks kinda ridiculous as it sits right now... while the wheels are 19", the snow tires and narrow width is definitely exacerbating the change. That being said, it's still an issue and needs to be resolved.

 

[cjldad]

What size are those winter tires? The rear doesn't look like it's been lowered at all.. Did you clock your bushings and all of that happy stuff when it was lowered?

 

[whalesalad]

What size are those winter tires? The rear doesn't look like it's been lowered at all.. Did you clock your bushings and all of that happy stuff when it was lowered?

I wanna say 255/40 all around. It's a square setup of take-offs from an S197 Mustang. 25mm spacers all around (needed to clear the front brakes, plus offsets on these pathetic things are out of control)

I actually tried to do the whole bushing release/re-torque a while back but was never able to get my hand tools into the right position to loosen things while the wheels were on.

I suppose I can still give that a shot but when I ended up digging into this and finding that the rake is seemingly a cherished aspect of owning BMR springs, I started to wonder that I might need to change schools of thought.

The first sign something was wrong was probably when I needed to adjust my headlights in a pretty dramatic way. I find a lot of this stuff odd because its not mentioned in the installation instructions anywhere. Maybe this is all my fault :(

 

[sijoko]

There's nothing wrong with the way your car sits here. IMHO there should be more drop in the front than the rear.

 

[Competition Orange]

I'm on bmr handling springs and I agree, fronts too low. Getting the steeda front ride height spacers to give me a touch more room up front for my 305s slicks. With that said, the handling is great, just a bit too low IMO.

 

[Cobra Jet]

There's nothing wrong with the way your car sits here. IMHO there should be more drop in the front than the rear.

Just curious, why do you believe there should there be more of a drop in the front? For merely aesthetics?

 

[BMR Tech]

I'm on bmr handling springs and I agree, fronts too low. Getting the steeda front ride height spacers to give me a touch more room up front for my 305s slicks. With that said, the handling is great, just a bit too low IMO.

Which version do you have? If you have Rev1...and wanna swap out, let me know and I will send you a new set of fronts.

Shoot me an email to [email protected]

 

[BMR Tech]

I wanna say 255/40 all around. It's a square setup of take-offs from an S197 Mustang. 25mm spacers all around (needed to clear the front brakes, plus offsets on these pathetic things are out of control)

I actually tried to do the whole bushing release/re-torque a while back but was never able to get my hand tools into the right position to loosen things while the wheels were on.

I suppose I can still give that a shot but when I ended up digging into this and finding that the rake is seemingly a cherished aspect of owning BMR springs, I started to wonder that I might need to change schools of thought.

The first sign something was wrong was probably when I needed to adjust my headlights in a pretty dramatic way. I find a lot of this stuff odd because its not mentioned in the installation instructions anywhere. Maybe this is all my fault :(

Hard to "really" tell by your pic, but it does seem to sit abnormally high out back.

Although our springs are known to reverse the factory rake, yours seems as if it may be a little on the excessive side to me.

Why don't you give me a ring tomorrow? Let's chat about it.

 

[wildcatgoal]

Just curious, why do you believe there should there be more of a drop in the front? For merely aesthetics?

Many of these cars seem to have more wheel gap in the front from the factory. Most springs therefore drop the car more in the front than the back to accommodate that difference (which is just shy of 1/4", especially on PP cars). That wheel gap is not indicative of a reverse rake on the car overall, though, it's just fender cut design and wheel diameter not mixing together that well. Something, unfortunately for us, Chevy paid more attention to.

 

[Competition Orange]

Awesome service from Kelly as usual. I'll be in touch again once I get the car up in the air.

 

[whalesalad]

After a week of mindfulness meditation, soul searching, 12 hours in an isolation tank and a raw-honey hollywood juice cleanse, I finally came to a decision.

Just a few minutes ago I got off the phone with Rodney over at Steeda. I placed a juicy order on some sweet gear. Thanks TJ and Rodney! Ultralite linear springs, pro action non-adjustible shocks, 1/8" spacers, front camber plates and some rear shock mounts for the cherry on top are on the way up from Florida to Michigan.

I know this forum tends to have a lot of folks who side with either BMR or Steeda, but my intention with this thread was definitely not to start a war. I respect both companies a great deal. There is definitely an alliance though... kinda like Pepsi and Coke... red vs blue. I'm gonna guess it's tribal. You buy and enjoy products from a company you come to know to some extent here on the forums, and you're gonna support them and fight for them. Nothing wrong with that. And from what I can tell, there is nothing at all wrong with BMR. I like a lot of their other goodies (should probably throw a CB005 on here while I am at it!)

Personally, I think it's fantastic that both companies exist and push the boundaries of the aftermarket for this and other platforms. Competition is necessary for innovation. I am not a big fan of the stance provided by the BMR springs but I know a lot of others are very happy with them.

All that being said... I'm super stoked to get these Steeda parts on. It's gonna be a totally different animal.

Thanks everyone for your questions/comments and help with making this decision. I'll definitely be sure to throw an update up with install pics as well as some before/after shots.

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