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That is not how you launch the car either. It must be launched over 4k and not much slipping of the clutch. Just preloading. Its no wonder people get horrible times in the gt or gt350. Nobody knows what the hell they are doing. Damn noobs. Lauching a car in low rpms that revs high is not how you get cars like that out of the hole fast. Only people with lacking experience in drag racing or a high revving engines launch like that.

As for this thread, the gt350 will walk a gt very nice, the gt350r even more so. The gt350 is a faster car then magazine numbers make it look. Race against one. Youll be very surprised how soon it walks away from you. They are not as close as the pathetic times for the gt350 that were shown in magazines.
Hasn't it been just a couple of tenths quicker in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times?
See above post.
 

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At the end of the day, 1/4 mile times are meaningless to me because when I get to the end of the 1/4-mile and the GTPP is hitting the brakes to turn left or right into the upcoming turn on the roadcourse I would like bump the brakes to set the car, if needed, and keep on going.

Here's where the GTPP and the 350 part ways... It starts at the front fascia, proceeds to the crank, then mosies thru the bore/stroke, the intake, then works its way to the chassis with advanced tuning and MR dampening, then to the significantly different braking system, on to the different driving dynamics, the superior exhaust note, thru the belly pan and out past the rear fascia.

I may have left something off but the above entails this in a quick and summated point... The package of the 350 is simply without a doubt a gutbuster to the whole dynamics of a ponycar with a track purpose, and in the end the value transcends that of the Z/28 which broke ground before it. This car, unlike a GTPP, will turn heads, cause wives to lust, all the while being able to back itself up time over and time over.

So... Which is really faster? Who gives a donkey dung?...
 

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At the end of the day, 1/4 mile times are meaningless to me because when I get to the end of the 1/4-mile and the GTPP is hitting the brakes to turn left or right into the upcoming turn on the roadcourse I would like bump the brakes to set the car, if needed, and keep on going.

Here's where the GTPP and the 350 part ways... It starts at the front fascia, proceeds to the crank, then mosies thru the bore/stroke, the intake, then works its way to the chassis with advanced tuning and MR dampening, then to the significantly different braking system, on to the different driving dynamics, the superior exhaust note, thru the belly pan and out past the rear fascia.

I may have left something off but the above entails this in a quick and summated point... The package of the 350 is simply without a doubt a gutbuster to the whole dynamics of a ponycar with a track purpose, and in the end the value transcends that of the Z/28 which broke ground before it. This car, unlike a GTPP, will turn heads, cause wives to lust, all the while being able to back itself up time over and time over.

So... Which is really faster? Who gives a donkey dung?...
THANK YOU DRUM!!!!!!!!!!!:cheers: As stated, who cares about 1/4 mile times, trap speeds, ect. You don't judge a Hellcat by its track times so why judge the 350 by 1/4 times. The 350 is made for a totally different purpose. If you want a car that can do the 1/4 mile then get a GT and build on it. End of story.
 
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No hating here my friends. As my first post stated, the track is a different story. Was just wandering about the numbers and they are closer than I would have thought. Was very surprised at the weight being close.

Now my other ride will better the GT350 and a R 0-60 or in the 1/4 mile. 2500 lbs, 450 HP and the size of a MGB. On a track, the Tiger will get spanked by either car. Its only 50 years old now. There are a lot of butthurt Corvette guys who tried to play around here.

 
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It's been reported the GT350 can and has hit almost 180 mph. I don't think the GT's speedo even goes that high? :shrug: :thumbsup:
It's limited at 160 but should be able to hit close to that.
 

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This has becoming a bit of an identity discrepancy with the 350. What do I mean? Observe:

Fans of imports and/or Euro sports cars are well aware that they never win the 1320 or the speedo in any specific class of car. However their argument is all about the "driving experience" and the "character" of the car. It's so much more multidimensional than straight line performance and they criticize American cars as such.

Now on the other side, American car lovers will say we have the grunt, we have the rustic charm that only a mother could love, we have the 1320 and the 0 - 60 in a bag and we can go around corners...sorta. Usually sideways and in a rather sloppy and dramatic form but it does nonetheless.

Now, finally we have an American car that is much more focused on the experience and the character of driving and it gets flack from the Euro/Import side saying "it's no longer a real muscle car and it's crap" because of that and from the American side saying EXACTLY the same thing. All because it can't rip a mind bending stat that means nothing in the real world except at the strip.

I have a friend with a '13 Bitch Made Wimp 3 series something or another and he criticizes me day in and day out about how I bought an American car that has a so so 1320 and that an M4 will outdo it in acceleration and if I wanted an American car, I should have just saved the money and got a '16 Camaro SS ($48K vs $56K in this price range and performance level isn't exactly "savings"). Excuse me? I thought Euro cars were about the driving experience, not the statistics. Besides, for what it's worth, you bought a 4 cylinder turbo family sedan that you're trying to upsell as a an extreme German example of driving and yet you've never taken it on the track or course. What's that again about the "driving experience?"

I think that most people who know something about the GT350 respect it entirely. But people who finally got what they've been asking for are now butthurt over it. Why? It's all pretentious drivel in my mind.

Sunbeam, this isn't directed at you but a generalized point. American cars are becoming more than the numbers now. And that's good. Drum is so on point. Cars like the GT350, the Stingray, and the Hellcat are more than just the numbers. They all have their performance advantages against their Import AND American competition but they all have a layer of a special something else that you can't touch but feel. Frankly, anyone who buys a car with their head rather than their heart either A. doesn't care about cars or B. is an internet bench racer that will never see the track because "they don't have anything to prove. Look it up on the internet."


Wow...end rant. Phew, breakin' a sweat over here.
 

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I have had mustang, camaro, BMW, and Import fans in my car. Zero have complained, in fact every one of them appreciated the car and want to ride in it again. One Ford hater purist talked shit but lets face it he is just pissed because all he can afford is a used minivan and a old ass Jeep.
 

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This has becoming a bit of an identity discrepancy with the 350. What do I mean? Observe:

Fans of imports and/or Euro sports cars are well aware that they never win the 1320 or the speedo in any specific class of car. However their argument is all about the "driving experience" and the "character" of the car. It's so much more multidimensional than straight line performance and they criticize American cars as such.

Now on the other side, American car lovers will say we have the grunt, we have the rustic charm that only a mother could love, we have the 1320 and the 0 - 60 in a bag and we can go around corners...sorta. Usually sideways and in a rather sloppy and dramatic form but it does nonetheless.

Now, finally we have an American car that is much more focused on the experience and the character of driving and it gets flack from the Euro/Import side saying "it's no longer a real muscle car and it's crap" because of that and from the American side saying EXACTLY the same thing. All because it can't rip a mind bending stat that means nothing in the real world except at the strip.

I have a friend with a '13 Bitch Made Wimp 3 series something or another and he criticizes me day in and day out about how I bought an American car that has a so so 1320 and that an M4 will outdo it in acceleration and if I wanted an American car, I should have just saved the money and got a '16 Camaro SS ($48K vs $56K in this price range and performance level isn't exactly "savings"). Excuse me? I thought Euro cars were about the driving experience, not the statistics. Besides, for what it's worth, you bought a 4 cylinder turbo family sedan that you're trying to upsell as a an extreme German example of driving and yet you've never taken it on the track or course. What's that again about the "driving experience?"

I think that most people who know something about the GT350 respect it entirely. But people who finally got what they've been asking for are now butthurt over it. Why? It's all pretentious drivel in my mind.

Sunbeam, this isn't directed at you but a generalized point. American cars are becoming more than the numbers now. And that's good. Drum is so on point. Cars like the GT350, the Stingray, and the Hellcat are more than just the numbers. They all have their performance advantages against their Import AND American competition but they all have a layer of a special something else that you can't touch but feel. Frankly, anyone who buys a car with their head rather than their heart either A. doesn't care about cars or B. is an internet bench racer that will never see the track because "they don't have anything to prove. Look it up on the internet."


Wow...end rant. Phew, breakin' a sweat over here.
I agree. I've been a genuine car guy since child hood. There is a video of me as a toddler standing on my grandmothers cars demanding that I have the keys. But my point is I've always had a genuine passion for cars. Even though I grew up with Fords and what not, I like any car that is fast. I actually had a 500hp Evo before the GT350.

What I love about the GT350 is it's such a well rounded and unique car. Where else can you find a 500 hp N/A V8 that revs north of 8k RPM's, stops on a dime and can absolutely kill it in the turns all for less than 60K? The answer is you can't. The only negative was the time it took to find a good deal and the time to build. But once I got my car, it made everything worth it.

This car is amazing. The people saying otherwise don't have one. Period. I put 1500 miles on my car in a month, and I'm currently daily driving it even though I have a brand new truck. This car is too fun not to drive.
 

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Let's face it... This car has a lot of soul. It's not just a fad... Not a parts bin performance car... It's damn SOUL!

There has been no American car to derive this kind of sentiment in my lifetime, and that's including the 2005-6 GT.

I don't care what you say but there's just something super damn special about that Voodoo, and I'll be damned if the whole package isn't just a soul-stirring form of rolling art that EVERYONE appears to appreciate.
 

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I'm hoping to have the best of both worlds! My 15Gt PP SC'ed for those days you just want to go straight and fast, it's putting down a little over 600rwhp. And now my GT350 TrackPack for those track days.
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

That's about as good as it gets so congrats!

I really like Black and Red cars so with your SB GT350 did you go with any OTT stripes and if so what color?

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