Side effects from tuning

[jtmat]

Is the power consistent all throughout rpm's, no drop off like it is stock?

If you look at unleashed thread, there are many that point this out.

It is the reason I finally purchased... no longer have to put the peddle to the floor to pass at hwy speeds.... and the car pulls and pulls all the up.

If going from a dead stop, it simply pulls all the way up.

I'm not sure how it acts over 130 though.

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[04SloSnake]

I completely agree as well. Although, I'm not a gambling man so this is why I'm asking these questions I certainly want more power running to the car as I feel that it's a little bit too slow and not properly mapped out from the factory, however I would just like to know that these tunes are performed well enough that they are reliable for the platform and won't leave me stranded needing to replace an $8000 motor. So far I've really seen nothing but good reliability from almost every single else tuner on here but the question still plagues me is four to $600 worth of a tune possibly worth the single isolated chance of blowing up the motor and having to replace it on a brand-new car. personally I work for a company that absolutely backs our product 110% so I would like to hear from these tutors that as long as the car was being treated normally and wasn't being modified or messed with after the tune has been put on that if there was some type of substantiating problem that the tuner would at least Step in and offer some type of assistance so that the buyer was no longer stranded, especially if it was the tune that could've caused the problem

But there is no way for them to know if you have messed with it or not. As shady as people are these days you cannot take their word for it so what else can you do? I would bet my next paycheck that none of the reputable tuners on here will cause a motor to fail. That isn't to say one of their customers won't lose a motor, but it won't be because of the tune. If you're that worried about your warranty, just hold off.

It also shouldn't cost anywhere near $8,000 to replace this motor.

 

[04SloSnake]

There... fixed for you.

I would put money on a well tuned EB over a bolt-on/tune Challenger R/T or 3v any day.

(He may not have just been talking about S550 GTs)

 

[Joe_Stang]

I would put money on a well tuned EB over a bolt-on/tune Challenger R/T or 3v any day.

(He may not have just been talking about S550 GTs)

Hell a tuned v6 with bolt on could keep up or beat a challenger r/t so a tuned EB should dust it lol.

 

[04SloSnake]

Hell a tuned v6 with bolt on could keep up or beat a challenger r/t so a tuned EB should dust it lol.

That's all I'm saying. I'm really wanting to get a SN95 Cobra as a project car and the reality is a tuned EB will smoke that car. I was joking with my wife that I would need to spray the Cobra to beat her in the EB.

 

[jtmat]

I completely agree as well. Although, I'm not a gambling man so this is why I'm asking these questions I certainly want more power running to the car as I feel that it's a little bit too slow and not properly mapped out from the factory, however I would just like to know that these tunes are performed well enough that they are reliable for the platform and won't leave me stranded needing to replace an $8000 motor. So far I've really seen nothing but good reliability from almost every single else tuner on here but the question still plagues me is four to $600 worth of a tune possibly worth the single isolated chance of blowing up the motor and having to replace it on a brand-new car. personally I work for a company that absolutely backs our product 110% so I would like to hear from these tutors that as long as the car was being treated normally and wasn't being modified or messed with after the tune has been put on that if there was some type of substantiating problem that the tuner would at least Step in and offer some type of assistance so that the buyer was no longer stranded, especially if it was the tune that could've caused the problem

I don't agree... on the side I own a software company... if you are installing the software and your computer crashes and fries the mobo, I don't cover that. I had one person who thought that I should. Uhh... no... I won't buy you a $1200 computer for a $110 software package. No one else has reported an issue.

If my engine blows, I'm 100% I know why... I'll flash back to stock and hope for the best.

You should stay stock or get a GT. I'm not even sure how a tuner would know it was the tune that caused the problem. Of course Ford would say that... but how would you know.

 

[EcoSwag1990]

I will go with unleashed once I put some miles on the car. The biggest problem I noticed with this car is it has no power in the upper rpm's. Did your tune make a big difference with this. I want the power to be consistent all the way through.

My car feels like it never stops pulling with the tune from LMS. The midrange is crazy of course but now it doesn't die out of nowhere up top

I have read (almost) all positive reviews about the tunes (for V6, EB, V8) here.

Meaning no disrespect to tuning companies or Ford, I have to wonder why Ford did not tune it like this at factory. (Or maybe Ford was a bit too conservative when setting up stock tune?) :cheers:

Several reasons/probabilities:
A. They already know how much power they are targeting for the car to make before they even build it so even if it is capable of making a lot more power, they would just tune it to reach their goal and leave the rest on the table

B. The want to leave enough of a gap between engines so that they don't compete with each other in sales. They would rather more ppl buy the more expensive trim/engine

C. They just tuned it extremely conservatively because they want ecoboost engines to be known for reliability and the more conservative the tuning is, there will statistically be less ppl with major problems. There are a lot of ppl who run their cars hard and don't maintain them properly and Ford knows it

 

[Joe_Stang]

Yes that dying out of nowhere up top is a big let down with this car lol but if a tune fixes it then I'm happy.

 

[Poppacapp]

I would put money on a well tuned EB over a bolt-on/tune Challenger R/T or 3v any day.

(He may not have just been talking about S550 GTs)

Well, yes.. you have a point. I am not hating... I had a low 11sec DSM. :cheers:

 

[willmkent]

I don't agree... on the side I own a software company... if you are installing the software and your computer crashes and fries the mobo, I don't cover that. I had one person who thought that I should. Uhh... no... I won't buy you a $1200 computer for a $110 software package. No one else has reported an issue.

If my engine blows, I'm 100% I know why... I'll flash back to stock and hope for the best.

You should stay stock or get a GT. I'm not even sure how a tuner would know it was the tune that caused the problem. Of course Ford would say that... but how would you know.

I completely get what you are saying. Personally I love the ECO because I really enjoy turbo cars. So I will certainly end up taking the chance overall. But in the event of a failure post tune... I guess I would like some support, if it was tune related. I guess maybe help proving one way or the other? Maybe what I'm asking for is too much, but really the purpose of this thread was to find if anyone here has seen such failure post tune and there really isn't anyone so far. I saw one tuner damaged a motor because they really pushed the stock turbo and created to much heat... Then they actually had the stones to report their findings, which i had a lot of respect for without a doubt. each member speaking up through this discussion really makes me trust the tune more and more. I really can't wait to get it done.

Also guys, Im not looking for crazy power, i want good power, and reliability, nothing pushing the limits of unsafe and through research here on the forum so far, I'm getting nothing but all good things

 

[04SloSnake]

I completely get what you are saying. Personally I love the ECO because I really enjoy turbo cars. So I will certainly end up taking the chance overall. But in the event of a failure post tune... I guess I would like some support, if it was tune related. I guess maybe help proving one way or the other? Maybe what I'm asking for is too much, but really the purpose of this thread was to find if anyone here has seen such failure post tune and there really isn't anyone so far. I saw one tuner damaged a motor because they really pushed the stock turbo and created to much heat... Then they actually had the stones to report their findings, which i had a lot of respect for without a doubt. each member speaking up through this discussion really makes me trust the tune more and more. I really can't wait to get it done.

Also guys, Im not looking for crazy power, i want good power, and reliability, nothing pushing the limits of unsafe and through research here on the forum so far, I'm getting nothing but all good things

That was also a shop car so they were purposely pushing the limits, especially before TX2K. You can't go there without pushing to the limits and beyond. Even the tuner said he would never do the same to a customer's car. I think that should make you feel even better. For what you are looking for, a P1.5 kit should do the trick.

Reputable tuners these days cannot afford to ruin someones car. Even if they are not responsible the internet backlash would be too troublesome to take chances. People like to do trial in the court of public opinion so shops can't win if something goes wrong.

 

[murphy]

There... fixed for you.

They really get pissed when they find out your tuned premium Eco not only beat their stock base GT but was also thousands less. Win-win.

 

[Poppacapp]

They really get pissed when they find out your tuned premium Eco not only beat their stock base GT but was also thousands less. Win-win.

Nah, all they have to do is rev their GT one time.... problem fixed. Dem' sounds doe'

 

[04SloSnake]

And we're off...

 

[Poppacapp]

And we're off...

;) :lol: :cheers:

ok.. I'm done.

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