Sponsored

Redlining your car

OP
OP
Coyotes55086

Coyotes55086

Banned
Banned
Banned
Joined
Dec 23, 2019
Threads
65
Messages
271
Reaction score
27
Location
Canada
First Name
Anthony
Vehicle(s)
2017 Mustang GT
No , in track mode the auto will let you stay in redline without shifting for you
 

Cheatham

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 25, 2020
Threads
7
Messages
74
Reaction score
21
Location
Crp Tx.
Vehicle(s)
2020 Mustang GT, Iconic Silver, Perf.Pack. 6 spd
Past experience has shown for me that a few hundred rpm short shifting seemed to produce lower ET on a drag strip, unless you have an lightweight engine package and low geared car that zing's the rpm up instantly that's a different animal
 

Excel

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 21, 2018
Threads
2
Messages
125
Reaction score
45
Location
TN
First Name
Mitch
Vehicle(s)
2015 GT and 2015 F150
big gray area.....redlining is pushing things to the limit and stock parts break
at any given moment when pushed to the limit ...No risk no reward but when
you spin a bearing or drop a valve its 99% of the time at the higher RPM and
not from normal driving
 

Sponsored

ice445

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2020
Threads
40
Messages
6,798
Reaction score
8,246
Location
Salt Lake City, UT
First Name
Ryan
Vehicle(s)
2020 Mustang GT 6MT
I've always understood hitting redline every so often is pretty much irrelevant. These motors are designed to rev unlike the LS counterparts, so unless you just sit banging off the limiter the engine isn't going to notice anything. I just make sure my coolant and oil is warmed up before I get anywhere near it.
 

Stephen@lethal

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 8, 2019
Threads
340
Messages
997
Reaction score
454
Location
Florida
First Name
Steve
Vehicle(s)
2020 Mustang Gt500
Hitting the limiter isn't going to hurt anything as long as its not sitting there, you should be fine to hit it every once and a while.
 

Norm Peterson

corner barstool sitter
Joined
Jul 22, 2013
Threads
11
Messages
8,852
Reaction score
4,652
Location
On a corner barstool not too far from I-95
First Name
Norm
Vehicle(s)
'08 GT #85, '19 WRX
Past experience has shown for me that a few hundred rpm short shifting seemed to produce lower ET on a drag strip, unless you have an lightweight engine package and low geared car that zing's the rpm up instantly that's a different animal
Unless the power curve falls off a cliff once you hit peak HP rpm, average power to the tires ends up being higher when you use a few rpm above peak power rpm rather than rpms further down on the low side where less power is developed. This would be engine-specific and might depend on other details.


Norm
 

Grintch

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 7, 2014
Threads
15
Messages
1,918
Reaction score
823
Location
Hunstville
Vehicle(s)
2015 GT PP
Unless the power curve falls off a cliff once you hit peak HP rpm, average power to the tires ends up being higher when you use a few rpm above peak power rpm rather than rpms further down on the low side where less power is developed. This would be engine-specific and might depend on other details.


Norm
Right, the typical car has a redline 1000 or 1500 rpm above the power peak. But the Mustang GT only allows an extra 500 rpm.
The specific optimum shift point will vary based on the power curve, the gearing, etc.

I have calculated the optimum shift points for the 2015-2017 GT, and it is ~7300 rpm (varies with gear), and the stock redline for those cars is 7000 (or somewhat less). So short shifting is NOT optimum for them.
 

m3incorp

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 6, 2020
Threads
22
Messages
4,602
Reaction score
3,125
Location
Georgia/Colorado
First Name
James
Vehicle(s)
2019 Mustang GT Premium with Roush Phase 2, 2023 Audi A5
I haven't hit redline yet on the highway....it's pointless in 1-3rd as it's just wheel spin and in 4th, it is go straight to jail...do not collect $200.
 

Sponsored

Norm Peterson

corner barstool sitter
Joined
Jul 22, 2013
Threads
11
Messages
8,852
Reaction score
4,652
Location
On a corner barstool not too far from I-95
First Name
Norm
Vehicle(s)
'08 GT #85, '19 WRX
Right, the typical car has a redline 1000 or 1500 rpm above the power peak. But the Mustang GT only allows an extra 500 rpm.
The specific optimum shift point will vary based on the power curve, the gearing, etc.

I have calculated the optimum shift points for the 2015-2017 GT, and it is ~7300 rpm (varies with gear), and the stock redline for those cars is 7000 (or somewhat less). So short shifting is NOT optimum for them.
Exactly.

The only time I can think of where short-shifting would make much sense involves upshifting before you enter a corner just to avoid having to upshift in it. But that's just a wee bit outside the way OP is looking to use his car.


Norm
 

RIBS

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 20, 2015
Threads
46
Messages
775
Reaction score
297
Location
Metro Atlanta
First Name
Steve
Vehicle(s)
2015 Mustang GT Ruby Red
Ford warranted the power train for 60,000 miles, with full ability to hit the refine. If you leave the Ford engineered nannies in place, I would expect you are operating the engine within its design specs and abilities. But anything you beat on will generally fail sooner than something lightly used.... my 2015 is full stock, I have probably done 100-150 1/4 mile runs at full throttle, nannies on, hitting redline at each gear shift. No issues, nothing is broken, doesn’t use any oil....runs smooth, straight and quiet down the road....
 

bakerjw

New Member
Joined
Apr 3, 2020
Threads
2
Messages
4
Reaction score
8
Location
Johnson City, Tn.
First Name
John
Vehicle(s)
2019 Mustang GT
I have a new 2019 GT. Need for green with the black racing stripe. Damn do I love this car.
Prior to this one, I had a 98 with the 4.6L engine. It was quick and sounded good but NOTHING like this one.

The problem that I've had is how quick it gets to 7,000 RPM in first. I've bounced it off of the rev limiter a couple of times now and panicked about it. It will take me a bit to get used to it for sure. A few early mornings on the local highway should help.

Is there a way to set the rev limiter lower than the factory setting? I know that is the opposite of what most ask, I just don't like getting that high into the RPMS if I can help it.

And as for the rev matching... Arrgghhhh.. I hate that.
 

Norm Peterson

corner barstool sitter
Joined
Jul 22, 2013
Threads
11
Messages
8,852
Reaction score
4,652
Location
On a corner barstool not too far from I-95
First Name
Norm
Vehicle(s)
'08 GT #85, '19 WRX
Maybe start getting used to this car by NOT doing any hard pulls in 1st just yet. Use 1st just to get the car rolling, maybe only to 3500 rpm, and wait until you're in 2nd to lay into it.


Norm
 

m3incorp

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 6, 2020
Threads
22
Messages
4,602
Reaction score
3,125
Location
Georgia/Colorado
First Name
James
Vehicle(s)
2019 Mustang GT Premium with Roush Phase 2, 2023 Audi A5
You can set the shift notification to any RPM you like...it won't stop you from revving higher but it light up the dash and turn red once you hit that set RPM....that could help you get used to it. I'm guessing you have the 6 speed manual?

I have a new 2019 GT. Need for green with the black racing stripe. Damn do I love this car.
Prior to this one, I had a 98 with the 4.6L engine. It was quick and sounded good but NOTHING like this one.

The problem that I've had is how quick it gets to 7,000 RPM in first. I've bounced it off of the rev limiter a couple of times now and panicked about it. It will take me a bit to get used to it for sure. A few early mornings on the local highway should help.

Is there a way to set the rev limiter lower than the factory setting? I know that is the opposite of what most ask, I just don't like getting that high into the RPMS if I can help it.

And as for the rev matching... Arrgghhhh.. I hate that.
Sponsored

 
 








Top