Rear brake size? Really ford!

[Zerobar78]

that was also a function of the poor stock suspension design. a torque arm alleviates a lot of that

Yes, I never got that far with mine running a pan hard and PM3L setup but had about everything else done to it.

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[Rogues Gambit]

http://shop.aerospacecomponents.com/2015mustangreardualbrakekit.aspx

Read what you wrote and figure you might like this

 

[GTP]

What would be a little nicer rear brake is not a larger size, but a switch from floating single-piston to fixed dual-piston calipers. I would be interested in hearing sources for this, so long as the effective brake biased is not skewed.

 

[nicktechla]

I agree. My Evo had Brembos all around, 4 Piston in the front, 2 in the rear. It would even look nicer

 

[Waldorf]

What would be a little nicer rear brake is not a larger size, but a switch from floating single-piston to fixed dual-piston calipers. I would be interested in hearing sources for this, so long as the effective brake biased is not skewed.

This would be nice! But...

Once you get past a single piston caliper, the e-brake becomes a problem. Either an external clamp type, or internal shoes in the hub like the Explorer or GT350. Either way, additional $$$. And makes for a more complicated setup. The rear caliper esthetics leave a lot to be desired (pronounced: "look sh!tty"), but they're simple, and they work.

To each his own... your money, your choice.

That is all...

 

[GTP]

This is why I am losing interesting in painting my calipers. The silver finish against the silver rotors is more subtle, leaving the eye to be attracted to the wheels. Painting the rear caliper is like dabbing a dot of paint there - it is pretty small.

 

[Rogues Gambit]

How much overkill would dual rear brake calipers be for a daily?

 

[GTP]

We are trying to say that better performance and/or better build quality is fine, so long as the brake bias does not change, because that is a performance and safety issue.

And when I said dual piston, I meant one on each side of the rotor, not two on each side. So it would still be a small caliper, but it would be "styled" more like the front fixed-caliper. And it would be better in the long term, since floating calipers can have the slide pins corrode and stick, thus overheating the brake. This comes about when changing worn pads to new thick ones.

IOW, it would/could look better, but the performance gain is marginal since the rears don't do a lot of the braking.

Must be the mod addiction, moditis.

 

[Amaury]

want to brake better? Buy better tires

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[Tomo]

I just want to point out that just because some race cars run with more front brake bias than rear, not all do. Some do a much better job keeping even brake bias, or some run with what seems to be more rear bite than front.

This Aston for example has good even clamping it seems, and I would say a symmetrical brake set up (likely 13inch-ish rotors with 6 piston front/back).

Or this Porsche running more rear bite than front, and this LeMans car though the pictures are quite shaky, difference can still be seen.

Lots of cars run more front bias, but really...no one wants this

 

[86merc]

http://shop.aerospacecomponents.com/2015mustangreardualbrakekit.aspx

Read what you wrote and figure you might like this

How much overkill would dual rear brake calipers be for a daily?

Are you talking about the kit above? You don't want that kit for street driving. The major concern is the thin, non-vented brake rotors. They would warp quickly. They are also very touchy at low speeds. They are meant to help hold back a light weight, drag car with a turbo. So they can spool the turbos into boost before staging the car. Then a parachute handles most of the braking needs.

 

[Waldorf]

Lots of cars run more front bias, but really...no one wants this

Ouch! That's gotta hurt. Good examples. A Pic is worth 1,000 words.

That is all...

 

[86merc]

Or this Porsche running more rear bite than front, and this LeMans car though the pictures are quite shaky, difference can still be seen.

You are confusing the heat making the rotors red/orange with actual braking force.

Factory cars have too soft of a suspension and chassis set up and tires to be able to make a front and rear brake set up as the same. The rear end unloads too much under braking to take advantage of braking forces like that. Comparing race cars and production cars is not a good argument.

Plus bean counters are not going to ever go for such an expensive brake set up in the rear. I think some thing like what the Camaro has is sufficient. The Explorer and other vehicles had inside the rotor parking brakes. That wouldn't be anything new. So there are options. The question is will future mustangs get something than that floating single caliper? That is the question. And if not we like to modify cars. There are options for those who REALLY want different brakes.

 

[Tomo]

I'm not confusing the two, and I'm not making any kind of argument for what should be utilized for factory supplied brakes.

Merely offering the counter-point to the Ferrari, which is a very heavy car and known to have lots of front brake glow.

Even on the cars with brakes that are glowing more at the rear, more of the braking is being done by the fronts, its just that proportionally they might be closer to a 60/40 split or something along those lines. Race-cars are a unique situation. I was just showing that you can find glowing brakes in any form you want, as they are a preference by the car builder and driver.

 

[Rogues Gambit]

Are you talking about the kit above? You don't want that kit for street driving. The major concern is the thin, non-vented brake rotors. They would warp quickly. They are also very touchy at low speeds. They are meant to help hold back a light weight, drag car with a turbo. So they can spool the turbos into boost before staging the car. Then a parachute handles most of the braking needs.

Gotcha, well now for Plan A, find the right street set up that's lighter and more powerful than my current PP brakes just for the hell of it

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