ixfe
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- Dallas, TX
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- 2018 Shelby GT350
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So I’m not new to this game. I’ve owned four Mustangs (currently drive an ‘18 GT350) and always seem to chase hard-to-find cars. I’m not a guy who rants about ADM’s, although I won’t pay them either. That said, what I experienced today crossed the line, imho.
Knowing it’s probably too early to start looking for a base GT500 (inbound car or allocation), I did a quick search yesterday anyway on cars.com and found four within 500 miles of DFW. One had no price. One was listed for $126k (more on that one below). The other two were listed at $79k and $80k respectively.
Access Ford of Corpus Christi, TX - They has the $126k car and an $80k car. To verify I went to their website to see the listings. The $126k is a golden ticket car with $106k MSRP and a $20k ADM clearly listed. The $80k car is a base car with no ADM listed. It has a stock number and vin listed, but no window sticker. So I enter my info and get a call back from Roger Davila within 5 minutes. Right away I can tell it’s a scam... he tells me the car on the web site is not available, but I can give them a $1000 deposit to order one. I say “great, you have an allocation?” “Well, no, we don’t, but you can get in line for one with a deposit.” I’m still very interested because after all, it’s an MSRP car (listed as such on cars.com and their own website). Only after 10 mins of questions and making arrangements does he finally admit, “Now you know, we sell these cars for $10k over sticker.” The phone call ended quickly after that. This dealer is not only advertising fake cars with vins and stock numbers, but purposely lying about the price.
Stanley Ford of Gilmer, TX - These guys also have a base car listed on cars.com and their own website priced at MSRP. This one also has a vin, stock number, and even a window sticker! Jerry Snyder responds to my inquiry via voicemail and text. In short... “I'm sorry to inform you we currently do not have that vehicle. But we do have a Shelby GT350.” Classic bait and switch. Advertise a fake car to try to sell a different car, as if I’m so dumb I’ll settle for a GT350 (that I already own). I ask if I can order one. He says they don’t have an allocation. Great so you’re advertising a car that doesn’t exist and I can’t order (presumably to flip people into the leftover ‘19 GT350 they have). When I ask what happened to the GT500 that shows available on the website, he gives me the classic brush off, “I’m new here, if you would like to call my sales mgr he can answer all your questions.”
This entire process wasted an hour of my morning. My bad for starting this early. The issue is, when it dies down in a year or so, there’s a good chance something else will have caught my eye. Oh well...
For what it’s worth, my local dealer (recently bought ‘19 F250 there) has an allocation but also wants $10k over. That’s been the case for months. I text the sales mgr every couple of weeks inquiring on status. Same story for the last two months. At $10k over I think it’s above market value (which is why it hasn’t sold). I wish they’d come down for a repeat customer and a lifelong Ford guy. But at least my guy is honest.
Knowing it’s probably too early to start looking for a base GT500 (inbound car or allocation), I did a quick search yesterday anyway on cars.com and found four within 500 miles of DFW. One had no price. One was listed for $126k (more on that one below). The other two were listed at $79k and $80k respectively.
Access Ford of Corpus Christi, TX - They has the $126k car and an $80k car. To verify I went to their website to see the listings. The $126k is a golden ticket car with $106k MSRP and a $20k ADM clearly listed. The $80k car is a base car with no ADM listed. It has a stock number and vin listed, but no window sticker. So I enter my info and get a call back from Roger Davila within 5 minutes. Right away I can tell it’s a scam... he tells me the car on the web site is not available, but I can give them a $1000 deposit to order one. I say “great, you have an allocation?” “Well, no, we don’t, but you can get in line for one with a deposit.” I’m still very interested because after all, it’s an MSRP car (listed as such on cars.com and their own website). Only after 10 mins of questions and making arrangements does he finally admit, “Now you know, we sell these cars for $10k over sticker.” The phone call ended quickly after that. This dealer is not only advertising fake cars with vins and stock numbers, but purposely lying about the price.
Stanley Ford of Gilmer, TX - These guys also have a base car listed on cars.com and their own website priced at MSRP. This one also has a vin, stock number, and even a window sticker! Jerry Snyder responds to my inquiry via voicemail and text. In short... “I'm sorry to inform you we currently do not have that vehicle. But we do have a Shelby GT350.” Classic bait and switch. Advertise a fake car to try to sell a different car, as if I’m so dumb I’ll settle for a GT350 (that I already own). I ask if I can order one. He says they don’t have an allocation. Great so you’re advertising a car that doesn’t exist and I can’t order (presumably to flip people into the leftover ‘19 GT350 they have). When I ask what happened to the GT500 that shows available on the website, he gives me the classic brush off, “I’m new here, if you would like to call my sales mgr he can answer all your questions.”
This entire process wasted an hour of my morning. My bad for starting this early. The issue is, when it dies down in a year or so, there’s a good chance something else will have caught my eye. Oh well...
For what it’s worth, my local dealer (recently bought ‘19 F250 there) has an allocation but also wants $10k over. That’s been the case for months. I text the sales mgr every couple of weeks inquiring on status. Same story for the last two months. At $10k over I think it’s above market value (which is why it hasn’t sold). I wish they’d come down for a repeat customer and a lifelong Ford guy. But at least my guy is honest.
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