Sharing any info is always great, and maybe this post will help someone out there looking for a R, but having that little extra bit of information means a buyer can bypass contacting a dealer asking $100k versus $15k over MSRP.
Ok, so perhaps some people don't realize this but what we've discovered is ADMs quoted from the SAME dealer can vary greatly. It's been reported that quotes on the SAME DAY can differ by $10k or more. Due to that fact, it's pretty much worthless to go by what someone else was quoted.
We're not taking about handing out the keys to the kingdom here with leads that are MSRP or sub-$10k ADMs, it's simply defining a known figure, be it variable or not, as a basis to work from so people can be efficient about who they deal and try to haggle with.
Ok, well I'll just defer to the original post. With a hint of possible reasonable ADM deals floating and a pretty short list of dealers to call....If someone was serious, they've already called about it. The ones that aren't serious or already have cars, are arguing and complaining about not getting their hand held all the way to the dealers front door....even though they aren't going to buy a car.
And what's exactly reasonable in your opinion, $20k? 50k? or $100k? Listing the ADM is a simple task, sorry the reasoning behind that is beyond your comprehension.
Hardly. Too bad you have to lash out with insults here... Again...anyone who "actually" wanted a car already called and didn't waste time arguing and complaining about the good intentions of a member here.
I venture to say there are no dealers who haven't been contacted...so what is remaining are this and lists like yours...which I argue is not any more useful even though the ADMs you observed are listed as the ADMs change constantly. This is a known fact and isn't really surprising. Every day a car goes unsold, the GM has to consider how long he wants to sit on it without moving it - so the prices could drop.....likewise, a GM hears of a car going through an auction at crazy prices and he could decide to raise their ADM.That was waaaaay too easy to get you back into a conversation you were "done" with.
I'm happy to agree that we can disagree about what constitutes helpful information AND that anyone who wants a real "deal" certainly won't get one from a list such as this or any of the ones that are posted, which are essentially table scraps. If anything people need to contact dealers that haven't been listed...
