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Your not getting it. It's not telling the throttle to open quicker, it telling the throttle to open more. What you feel is the throttle body opening more with less input. Don't confuse this with acceleration.
I am getting it... Because I had one... So I know how they work...

Go straight to WOT with and without this device. With the device, it opens quicker because the ECU is getting the WOT input quicker... Why is it so hard for people to understand this...
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I am getting it... Because I had one... So I know how they work...

Go straight to WOT with and without this device. With the device, it opens quicker because the ECU is getting the WOT input quicker... Why is it so hard for people to understand this...
You are using the wrong terminology. The only quickness involved in this equation is the time it takes for your right foot to get to WOT. The device does nothing to change how fast the throttle body opens, it simple opens with less throttle input.

You will not reach WOT measurable quicker with this device, as the time it takes your foot to travel the extra distance is not measurable. What you are feeling is the reduced modulation on everything in between.
 

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It's amazing how everything negative that is said is by people who have never used the device...
 

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It's amazing how everything negative that is said is by people who have never used the device...
Re read my posts. I said nothing negative. You are just misrepresenting what the unit does.
 

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The throttle opens quicker. It snaps to WOT faster. I am not misrepresenting anything.
 

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The throttle opens quicker. It snaps to WOT faster. I am not misrepresenting anything.
Lol, it doesn't, at least not that is measurable. If you think you can move your foot to WOT with that device quicker than without it, I'd like you to measure it. Hint, you won't be able to.

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Lets not get into another debate about how it works. Nobody cares how it works. When I drive my car, I shouldn't have to mash it down harder, faster, or farther to get it to feel like it has 435 hp when I drove Kias that felt more responsive at much less throttle input. I don't always want to feel like I'm pushing on the gas pedal like that. In Sport and Track modes, you don't have to do that. Which again is why I said that if you do not have the Premium option and do not want to tune then this device is perfect for you.
 

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People care how it works. If it weren't so, we wouldn't have all this discussion. If you want to be an ignorant lemming then that's great, but don't speak for everyone when you post your rambles. It's shocking how defensive and offended people get any time anyone starts questioning anything. The era of idiocracy is closing in on us. If you question how anything works = "hater"
 

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People care how it works. If it weren't so, we wouldn't have all this discussion. If you want to be an ignorant lemming then that's great, but don't speak for everyone when you post your rambles. It's shocking how defensive and offended people get any time anyone starts questioning anything. The era of idiocracy is closing in on us. If you question how anything works = "hater"
Some people just want to prove they are smarter and some have a subconscious anger/superiority complex because some people are happy with this device at a fraction of the cost of their tune.
 

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Is this not a discussion forum? Are we not here to figure out how things work so that we may improve them most effectively? Maybe we should all just start and end every conversation with "get this device, I dunno what it is, I dunno how it does what it does, but in my subjective opinion it's cool, just get it".

Don't ask questions. Just keep buying stuff.
 

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All I got out of all this is quickness has nothing to do with time and time is unmeasurable because it's unit's of measure isn't quickness. Or did I get that backwards?
 

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I'm getting a tune regardless...the idea is to find out if this device does anything a tune cannot do.

If all it does is change throttle modulation (throttle position in function of pedal position), then this device does not add value to someone that is already getting a tune...because one can change the throttle modulation via tune.

Not to say that the device does not work, I would appreciate being able to alter throttle modulation via a push button or knob, basically is like getting sport and track mode modulation on a base.
 

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All I got out of all this is quickness has nothing to do with time and time is unmeasurable because it's unit's of measure isn't quickness. Or did I get that backwards?
Your foot controls quickness, not the device in question. The device only alters the pedals modulation (small input, larger output). Stomping on the pedal in both cases will produce the same results, as the speed of your foot is what is controlling things.
 

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Is this not a discussion forum? Are we not here to figure out how things work so that we may improve them most effectively? Maybe we should all just start and end every conversation with "get this device, I dunno what it is, I dunno how it does what it does, but in my subjective opinion it's cool, just get it".

Don't ask questions. Just keep buying stuff.
Not what I'm saying at all. I said some. Not all. In response to why there's so many replies/questions. The "snake oil" people were mostly here to just bash.
 

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People care how it works. If it weren't so, we wouldn't have all this discussion. If you want to be an ignorant lemming then that's great, but don't speak for everyone when you post your rambles. It's shocking how defensive and offended people get any time anyone starts questioning anything. The era of idiocracy is closing in on us. If you question how anything works = "hater"
Nobody cares in that it doesn't have to be a full debate on exactly what it does. If you followed along this thread you'd know that it was discussed, debated, and argued at length as to how it works or whether it does this or that or whatever. The company that makes it even chimed in and explained what it does and how it works. And even that turned into a debate. Go back a few pages and read up on it if you wanna know that bad. But it doesn't need to be discussed fully again.


Some people just want to prove they are smarter and some have a subconscious anger/superiority complex because some people are happy with this device at a fraction of the cost of their tune.
If your comment was directed towards me, then know that I have from the start defended this product AND stated that it does work and works very well...just in case you haven't been following the thread.
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