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I am 64 yo old. I have owned 6 cars. Everyone has been a manual. My 7th will be a Mustang MT
 

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I am 64 yo old. I have owned 6 cars. Everyone has been a manual. My 7th will be a Mustang MT
:amen: I'm on car #7 currently. All with manual transmissions.

When shopping for a GTI in 2009, I drove two back to back. Same driver (me), same roads, same car. DSG vs. Manual. DSG was much smoother, probably faster and hit every downshift perfectly rev-matched compared to my pathetic granny shifting. Also was boring as hell compared to the manual. So, my current ride, like every other one in my life, has three pedals and a stick shift. A lot of practice has improved my downshifting footwork and heel-toe skills significantly :D
 

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I actually believe that Ford has made this point in the OM and this video because although there were issues with the first generation of transmission, Ford found several of the complaints were due to people not actually depressing the clutch fully while shifting. It's rough on synchros. The reverser one takes a beating if you are trying to shift into reverse while rolling forward. <<<This was a big complaint if I remember correctly. As others have posted, how many people bought these cars never owning a stick before.
 

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I actually believe that Ford has made this point in the OM and this video because although there were issues with the first generation of transmission, Ford found several of the complaints were due to people not actually depressing the clutch fully while shifting. It's rough on synchros. The reverser one takes a beating if you are trying to shift into reverse while rolling forward. <<<This was a big complaint if I remember correctly. As others have posted, how many people bought these cars never owning a stick before.
and some miss alignment/bolts coming loose/shifter issues/pp issues.

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and some miss alignment/bolts coming loose/shifter issues/pp issues.

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Yeah my '11 had the pressure plate bolt problem among some other issues with the trans.
 

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i say this, if she also has changing a tire covered you are an excellent parent. and as you have covered these parameters, i bet you have all the other common sense stuff under control.
I can change a tire. I can change oil. I can change a water pump, timing belts, serpentine belts, a power steering pump, an alternator, all exterior lights... let's see, what else have I changed... blower motors, all manner of hoses, flushed every kind of fluid imaginable (except brake fluid; my grandfather, who taught me how to repair cars, told me never to screw around with brakes, because if you mess it up you die).

But I don't know how to drive a manual.

Just for kicks, the other day I drove around in my Mustang with the transmission selector in third gear. The way the engine braking kicked in immediately when you let off the gas was... disconcerting. I don't know that I could get used to that.
 

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The way the engine braking kicked in immediately when you let off the gas was... disconcerting. I don't know that I could get used to that.
I HATE when autos stay in gear and DON'T do this.

You'll get used to it.
 

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You'll get used to it.
I'd say at some point you COUNT on it doing that. Plus, in my experience, driving around in "manual" mode in most automatics doesn't really feel like driving a manual at all.
 

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I'd say at some point you COUNT on it doing that. Plus, in my experience, driving around in "manual" mode in most automatics doesn't really feel like driving a manual at all.
Yes, I rarely have to use my brakes. I actually hate when people are constantly riding their brakes, just stop accelerating, you dicks.

It doesn't feel the same, but when autos just keep rolling at the same speed & rpm when off accelerator, that sucks.
 

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Not to turn this into a "Should I get an automatic or manual transmission?" thread, but I would be one of those people who has a Mustang as their first manual. This could be more worrying if I was planning on getting a GT, but I imagine that the ecoboost will be a bit more tame. I keep wavering back and forth on getting a manual. I want to get one before they totally go extinct.

I thought about getting a car to learn on, but that would just delay getting a Mustang that much longer.
 

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Not to turn this into a "Should I get an automatic or manual transmission?" thread, but I would be one of those people who has a Mustang as their first manual. This could be more worrying if I was planning on getting a GT, but I imagine that the ecoboost will be a bit more tame. I keep wavering back and forth on getting a manual. I want to get one before they totally go extinct.

I thought about getting a car to learn on, but that would just delay getting a Mustang that much longer.
if you really needed it, I'm sure there are driver schools that have a manual transmission class. (to get your feet wet if you can't borrow from a friend)
 

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if you really needed it, I'm sure there are driver schools that have a manual transmission class. (to get your feet wet if you can't borrow from a friend)
You would be surprised! I actually looked for a MT class a lot, and I have not found a single one that will teach you MT.

However, I do have several friends who would be willing to teach me. I have had maybe three or four days of practice already. I am sort of to the point where I can get around, but it still doesn't feel natural. I am still afraid of stalling out every time I come up to a light. Clearly I need more experience. I'm sure I would pick it up quickly if I had to do it every day.
 

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if you really needed it, I'm sure there are driver schools that have a manual transmission class. (to get your feet wet if you can't borrow from a friend)
There aren't. I don't want to repeat this here again to threadjack, because I already made this point before, but it's shocking how hard it is to learn to drive a manual transmission.

I have searched for manual-transmission classes at driving schools from Maine to Virginia and as far west as Pittsburgh -- nobody teaches them. No car rental agencies rent manual transmission cars. I don't know anybody who owns a car with a manual -- I've only sat in one once, when I was 17 decades ago. I only know two people who've ever driven a manual, and when I ask them about teaching me they both say "don't bother learning; it's awful and you'll wish you were never born in traffic." Not that they could teach me -- nobody has access to a manual to try out on.

The only option would be buying a manual car sight unseen and then trying to learn how to drive it then and there. My concern with that is that I wouldn't be able to get it out of the parking lot -- the one time I was ever in a car with a manual, when I was 17, I tried to get the car into gear for almost two hours, stalling over 100 times without ever being able to make the car move a foot.

It's easy to say "just learn!" and a lot harder to actually find a way to do it... one forum member here told me he'd teach me if I was ever in Rochester, and that's closest I've ever come to being able to find a way to learn how.
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