PP + Covertible??

[02gtnh]

I wonder why the PP is available in the EB convertible , yet not the GT?

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[EXP Jawa]

I wonder why the PP is available in the EB convertible , yet not the GT?

My guess is that since the EB PP more or less brings the chassis up to GT base levels, offering an EB PP convertible is sort of a regular GT convertible without the V8. But the GT PP brings the chassis up to another performance level entirely. I'm sure that Ford thinks anyone that serious about performance is serious enough to only want the stiffer coupe body rather than the 'vert. I wouldn't necessarily agree, however, but I'd bet that this is the basis of the logic. Along those lines, I wonder if there will continue to be a convertible version of the SVT car. There has always been one after the original '93 got the ball rolling, but if the so-called GT350 is, in fact, an heir to the Boss throne, then as a track-focused car, it could conceivably be fastback only as well... :shrug:

 

[mdw195]

Bummer on that.
It is interesting that you cannot order the car TY with anything other than black seats either...hmmm. I like the Redline premier trim followed by saddle.
Of course, I like the recaros the most, but not offered...Does anyone know why? Other than seat heaters, and seatbelt location...?
I would only really miss the radiator of PP, as I would have no issues with installing brembos or equivalent, and a strut tower brace, and want to go with my own wheels, though I do like some of the Ford wheels...

 

[Whiskey11]

My guess is that since the EB PP more or less brings the chassis up to GT base levels, offering an EB PP convertible is sort of a regular GT convertible without the V8. But the GT PP brings the chassis up to another performance level entirely. I'm sure that Ford thinks anyone that serious about performance is serious enough to only want the stiffer coupe body rather than the 'vert. I wouldn't necessarily agree, however, but I'd bet that this is the basis of the logic. Along those lines, I wonder if there will continue to be a convertible version of the SVT car. There has always been one after the original '93 got the ball rolling, but if the so-called GT350 is, in fact, an heir to the Boss throne, then as a track-focused car, it could conceivably be fastback only as well... :shrug:

I can think of a reason. Your average convertible buying consumer cares a lot less about performance than the person wanting a coupe does. How many enthusiast convertibles are there compared to hard tops, of ANY generation of Mustang? Are there enthusiasts out there who want performance in a vert? Yup there is. How many of them are wanting the GT though? The GT is already pretty high priced at this point compared to previous generations, the convertible adds a lot of expense to that? So which is more likely to sell more convertibles? The EB or the GT? Which is more likely to have consumers willing to spend the money for the PP, the EB Convertible buyer or the GT Convertible buyer? I would imagine the price point would drive most to the EB. So which makes more sense for Ford to offer then?

 

[spectremotorsports]

I can think of a reason. Your average convertible buying consumer cares a lot less about performance than the person wanting a coupe does. How many enthusiast convertibles are there compared to hard tops, of ANY generation of Mustang? Are there enthusiasts out there who want performance in a vert? Yup there is. How many of them are wanting the GT though? The GT is already pretty high priced at this point compared to previous generations, the convertible adds a lot of expense to that? So which is more likely to sell more convertibles? The EB or the GT? Which is more likely to have consumers willing to spend the money for the PP, the EB Convertible buyer or the GT Convertible buyer? I would imagine the price point would drive most to the EB. So which makes more sense for Ford to offer then?

This point would be valid if (a) The performance package didn't already exist and (b) it didn't already fit the vehicle in question and needed to be designed from scratch. They don't need to create something all new to do this, and its not a loss to the manufacturer to offer the parts package they are already producing for an identical car in coupe variant. Even if only a few people purchase it, it wouldn't matter because the money to develop that package would have already been made back by the coupe buyers you've mentioned who would be purchasing the very same package.

 

[mdw195]

I agree with you 100%.
Here is the dilemma. As you mentioned, nothing on the vert should be any different aside from the Recaros, which can be addressed with a harness I suppose.

BUT, my image of this car and it's history with me goes like this.
I buy the car, and drive it in anger every now and then.
I keep the car until my son (2 yrs old) graduates from college, or possibly until he gets his first house, and then it becomes his.
At this point the car is pretty valuable. And it would be more so if it had factory performance parts on it. If the vert does not have the PP, then I am pretty much a shoe in for coilovers, possibly sway bars, and a strut brace etc. Of course, I would likely throw wheels at it...so when the time comes to pass this vert down, it is not 100% stock.
Should it matter? maybe not. As there is no guarantee that I would not modify a car with PP either. But there is no logical reason to not have it as an option.
Perhaps it is just an oversight?
I love the Miata, but having two kids, it ain't gonna happen. Same for the Porsche Boxster. Heck, I have even kicked around the idea of a Vette, but have ruled that out for reasons above, and it is a bit more money than I want to part with, having set my limit at $50k.
I am not really a convertible guy, but I have already decided that the next car is going to be a vert.
Maybe I will change my mind? But again, I fail to see the logic on not offering the PP on the convertible and hope that by the time I am ready to buy (next summer) that Ford has a change of heart. Don't like the camaro...

 

[SeventhWard]

I recall reading that the Convertible comes included with much of the improved components one gets with the PP. Due to the need to create the extra rigidity needed in a droptop, the PP components are already part of the $5500 convertible premium.

Order a set of 19s with your convertible and consider it the PP sans gauge pack.

-SeventhWard

 

[spectremotorsports]

I recall reading that the Convertible comes included with much of the improved components one gets with the PP. Due to the need to create the extra rigidity needed in a droptop, the PP components are already part of the $5500 convertible premium.

Order a set of 19s with your convertible and consider it the PP sans gauge pack.

-SeventhWard

If thats true thats a good start, I'm more interested in the larger radiator and brakes though. The 3.73 gearing is inexpensive enough to not be a big deal, But I'm after those larger Brembo's!

 

[xlover]

I would have loved for there to be brembo plus 20s package just for style purposes the 15 inchers may be effective but they also look great. I am considering getting the pp mostly for the look of the big brakes.

 

[02gtnh]

I recall reading that the Convertible comes included with much of the improved components one gets with the PP. Due to the need to create the extra rigidity needed in a droptop, the PP components are already part of the $5500 convertible premium.

Order a set of 19s with your convertible and consider it the PP sans gauge pack.

-SeventhWard

Where did you read this?

 

[JoeDogInKC]

I believe they may get the sway bars for rigidity, but that's about it. And even then, the structural rigidity/integrity improvements probably only bump the vert up to about the same as a standard coupe, not to PP level, because of what gets lost when you chop the top.

 

[phil1336]

I don`t have a Dog in this Debate since I`m planning on ordering a 2015 Mustang Convertible in Base V6 Trim, A/T, with the Standard Equipment Package 050A and the Optional Spare Tire. Was toying with the idea of Upgrading to the 051A Equipment Package that adds the 18`` Wheels and Tires which I do like, rather then the Standard 17``. For the extra $995 they throw in the Power Drive Seat, Fog Lamps, and the Blade Spoiler which I would pay extra to Delete. Guess I`m going to keep it simple with a MSRP of $31,315. My Driver Seat seldom gets adjusted and the Fog Lamps on my previous Vehicles have never been used.

 

[SeventhWard]

Okay, I was talking out of my ass up there. I was wrong. The Convertible gets a K-brace for rigidity. Again, I don't recall where I read that. Dammit for my ravenous hunt for 2015 Mustang info and not recalling every source.

I agree - the original thesis is sound: it DOES suck that you can't order the PP for the GT convertible. Your GT Convertible may have a bit more going on in the undercarriage than the standard Coupe (to compensate for the missing roof) but it sure as hell doesn't have the brakes, the unique wheels, the suspension, the strut tower brace, the extra cooling, the gauges, that front splitter or the 3.73 gears. For topless performance in 2015, its Ecoboost or bust afterall.

-SeventhWard

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Ugh. Spirited driving in a convertible? Aren't you worried about rollovers?

 

[spectremotorsports]

Ugh. Spirited driving in a convertible? Aren't you worried about rollovers?

Not at all, I've been driving convertibles for several years, have yet to roll anything, both coupe and convertible.

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