pistol carry

[Buldawg76]

Many years carried a Sig P220. Shot is so much, developed frame cracks. SIG did replace the frame. Age caught up with me and the short sight radius was tough on my eyes. Now use a P226. Quick, good trigger and the Double action all allow for fast target acquisition and first shot. I practice all the time with both rifle and handguns.

As said earlier, don't advertise to anyone when I carry. This applies on person or in the car. I am very much aware that age has slowed reflexes so always look for an out to de-escalate.

Can't tell you how many times approached for advice. Want to buy a handgun for protection. What I tell them is simple. You buy one, you need to know how to safely handle and shoot. Requires a lot of range time. If you get past this, then think about what happens when someone enters your home intent on harming you. Are you prepared to shoot and consequences that come after? Also, with this - know the gun laws in your state and how they apply to home or personal defense situations. In the end, there is never a second place. Strike first with deadly accuracy. It now becomes your story only. Brutal fact but true.

Very well stated and right on point. As was once stated I believe by Cooper is the fact of beware of a man that only owns one gun. Train regularly until it is muscle memory and instinct that makes the actual thought process automatic and intuitive.

Also agree to know your state laws and what is allowed for defense of your life and property.

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[Evolvd]

Now use a P226.

I am very much aware that age has slowed reflexes so always look for an out to de-escalate.

I’m a huge Sig fanboi and have at least a dozen of their models but my favorite are the Legion series. Recently picked up the P226 X-Five Legion and it’s a great shooting weapon.

As for de-escalation, that should ALWAYS be the first thought, especially when carrying.

 

[sms2022]

Hmmmm, Detroit? I know a female Detroit cop. I think it's where you live.

Correct. Not in the city itself but in the metro area and I do a lot of business in the city.

I also seem to just attract crazy unfortunately. 2 drive bys on my street as a kid and a couple years ago when I bought a house in a “rich” forested suburb further north (Oakland township) my fiance was almost kidnapped in our driveway. I had to run out and slide under the garage door in my boxers like stone cold Steve Austin entering the ring and they hopped in their van and peeled out.

I’m out of here once I have kids. Either going far north in MI or west to Montana or Idaho where I have family. I can deal with wildlife but I’ve had enough of city life.

 

[kellyreno]

How do you guys carry your full size pistol in your car?

Never put it on this forum.

 

[K4fxd]

Never put it on this forum.

Mine will fit on the keyboard.

 

[kellyreno]

Mine will fit on the keyboard.

Big deal no where in my C8

 

[K4fxd]

Big deal no where in my C8

I'm always armed, or am I?

 

[Angrey]

Tell that to the people of Japan, Singapore, Italy, Switzerland, Norway, S. Korea and others where strict gun laws correlate with extremely low murder rates.

Now do Brazil. Deep and comprehensive "gun control" and "gun law" analysis not only domestically (by city and county and state) and internationally by country reveals that not only is there NOT a correlation between violent crime and firearm laws or ownership, but that if anything the correlation is slightly negative (meaning more gun laws correlate to more crime).

Brazil has extremely strict firearm laws and has a firearm homicide rate 6 times that of the United States.

The highest firearm murder rate in the US was during the height of Prohibition. Within 3 years of repeal, the firearm murder rate had dropped 60% to pre-prohibition levels.

If you want to reduce firearm homicides, end the war on drugs which creates the criminal atmosphere that pits criminals against criminals and creates conditions where citizens choose violence to escape, evade, etc because the criminal penalties are similar.

In 50 years, they'll look back at the drug wars the same way we look at prohibition of alcohol. What a waste and all it did was put organized crime in power and it took 3/4 of a century to largely stamp it out. You don't see people killing each other in the streets over a bottle of bourbon.

But there are several dark governmental agencies that need the drug trade to fund their off the books operations. Which is why it's going to take a few generations to legalize everything.

The OTHER effective, not theoretical, way to reduce homicide would be to actually execute (as in, express lane, no 10 years on appeal, get a rope and hang them in the town square) multiple violent offenders. Every time a violent criminal is released back into society and victimizes again, it's a preventable tragedy. When someone demonstrates more than once that they're willing to murder or rape someone, then we should just hang them. A good portion of violent crime is repeat business.

 

[Evolvd]

Shh, stop spitting logic. The illogical always want to compare us to countries who’ve never had a RIGHT to bear arms, don’t have the population numbers we do, and don’t have the socio-economic issues in the areas with the most violent crimes.

Nah, it’s just too easy to be a parrot and bring up UK, Australia, or any other country simply because they are modernized and westernized.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

Now do Brazil. Deep and comprehensive "gun control" and "gun law" analysis not only domestically (by city and county and state) and internationally by country reveals that not only is there NOT a correlation between violent crime and firearm laws or ownership, but that if anything the correlation is slightly negative (meaning more gun laws correlate to more crime).

Brazil has extremely strict firearm laws and has a firearm homicide rate 6 times that of the United States.

The highest firearm murder rate in the US was during the height of Prohibition. Within 3 years of repeal, the firearm murder rate had dropped 60% to pre-prohibition levels.

If you want to reduce firearm homicides, end the war on drugs which creates the criminal atmosphere that pits criminals against criminals and creates conditions where citizens choose violence to escape, evade, etc because the criminal penalties are similar.

In 50 years, they'll look back at the drug wars the same way we look at prohibition of alcohol. What a waste and all it did was put organized crime in power and it took 3/4 of a century to largely stamp it out. You don't see people killing each other in the streets over a bottle of bourbon.

But there are several dark governmental agencies that need the drug trade to fund their off the books operations. Which is why it's going to take a few generations to legalize everything.

The OTHER effective, not theoretical, way to reduce homicide would be to actually execute (as in, express lane, no 10 years on appeal, get a rope and hang them in the town square) multiple violent offenders. Every time a violent criminal is released back into society and victimizes again, it's a preventable tragedy. When someone demonstrates more than once that they're willing to murder or rape someone, then we should just hang them. A good portion of violent crime is repeat business.

I agree in part because making certain drugs illegal, it creates an artificial demand. Last November Ohio had a recreational mary jane issue on the ballot. Even tho I don't partake, I still voted yes. The reason, people are going to smoke weed, legal or not, and the dealers tend to cut that weed with a little fentanyl to make it more powerful so they can sell at a higher price point, make it stretch farther, etc. I would rather see weed legal so the users can get safe weed from a state approved seller.

If you legalize all recreational drugs, the demand will not go away and most likely it will lower prices. The street dealers will try to stay relevant so they will sell below the state approved retailers to retain their customers. But, street crime will go down just like when they repealed prohibition.

 

[Evolvd]

I agree in part because making certain drugs illegal, it creates an artificial demand. Last November Ohio had a recreational mary jane issue on the ballot. Even tho I don't partake, I still voted yes. The reason, people are going to smoke weed, legal or not, and the dealers tend to cut that weed with a little fentanyl to make it more powerful so they can sell at a higher price point, make it stretch farther, etc. I would rather see weed legal so the users can get safe weed from a state approved seller.

If you legalize all recreational drugs, the demand will not go away and most likely it will lower prices. The street dealers will try to stay relevant so they will sell below the state approved retailers to retain their customers. But, street crime will go down just like when they repealed prohibition.

Look at the cities that stopped enforcing bans on heroin…Philadelphia tried this and certain areas became zombie zones.

 

[shogun32]

heroin…Philadelphia tried this and certain areas became zombie zones

So? But it's no longer a killing field or high robbery area?

If people want to kill themselves, let them. Good riddance. It'll lower green house gas that's gonna kill us all. /sarc

The only place I draw a line is, do that stuff in the privacy of your own home. But if you step out into society for your job or to operate a vehicle you'd better be sober like the Pope. Otherwise we will incarcerate you until such time as you are sober.

Ditto alcohol. Zero latitude, zero forgiveness.

 

[Evolvd]

So? But it's no longer a killing field or high robbery area?

If people want to kill themselves, let them. Good riddance. It'll lower green house gas that's gonna kill us all. /sarc

The only place I draw a line is, do that stuff in the privacy of your own home. But if you step out into society for your job or to operate a vehicle you'd better be sober like the Pope. Otherwise we will incarcerate you until such time as you are sober.

That’s the problem, they aren’t doing it in their own homes. They are literally zombies in the streets turning once decent areas into shit holes. This affects businesses, insurance, housing, and on and on.

thanks but no thanks.

 

[shogun32]

they aren’t doing it in their own homes. They are literally zombies in the streets turning once decent areas into shit holes.

Clearly Philly needs to learn from the spectacular successes of LA. $300,000 per unit apartments for the homeless. See, easy peasy.

 

[wingnutt]

Ditto alcohol. Zero latitude, zero forgiveness.

whew…glad you didn’t include bourbon in that one

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