Official 2.3L Ecoboost Thread

[Rob WH]

Thanks... We got way off course here. Sorry about that as it was not my goal and I'm sure, not theirs either.

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[zemariacp]

hello all, i'm new to this forum. I was browsing through and wasn't able to find the numbers for the CO2 emissions for the 3 engines. At some point somebody mentioned that the 5.0L had an expected CO2 emissions of 320 g/km. Can someone verify this and eventually provide the emissions for the 3.7L engine and the projected emissions for the new 2.3L engine?
On a different note, why is it that this information is not advertised by Ford with the other tech specs?
Thanks.
Apologies for any replication of this question.

 

[RMS550]

Mustang Ecoboost, does anyone has information on the following : in the order guide the PP doesn't mention a strut tower brace, although it is listed in the built & price.

 

[Rob WH]

hello all, i'm new to this forum. I was browsing through and wasn't able to find the numbers for the CO2 emissions for the 3 engines. At some point somebody mentioned that the 5.0L had an expected CO2 emissions of 320 g/km. Can someone verify this and eventually provide the emissions for the 3.7L engine and the projected emissions for the new 2.3L engine?
On a different note, why is it that this information is not advertised by Ford with the other tech specs?
Thanks.
Apologies for any replication of this question.

:doh: Are you seriously asking what the C02 emissions is on a performance platform? The Ecoboost 4cyl engines are typically under 200(to under 140) and the N/A engines are typically more, but honestly... They ALL pass every ridiculously unimportant emissions test there is... including "Do they put out a small amount of that NATURALLY OCCURRING GAS known as C02" ...

The reason they don't advertise this is 2-fold: 1, it costs money to advertise and 2, simply because most people just don't care.;)

Mustang Ecoboost, does anyone has information on the following : in the order guide the PP doesn't mention a strut tower brace, although it is listed in the built & price.

It's there, or Ford will have to put it there since they've advertised it as part of the package. I would suspect they just left it off the earlier description.

 

[86GT]

:doh: Are you seriously asking what the C02 emissions is on a performance platform? The Ecoboost 4cyl engines are typically under 200(to under 140) and the N/A engines are typically more, but honestly... They ALL pass every ridiculously unimportant emissions test there is... including "Do they put out a small amount of that NATURALLY OCCURRING GAS known as C02" ...

The reason they don't advertise this is 2-fold: 1, it costs money to advertise and 2, simply because most people just don't care.;)

It's there, or Ford will have to put it there since they've advertised it as part of the package. I would suspect they just left it off the earlier description.

uh, he cares because other countries get taxed by emissions

 

[zemariacp]

you're quite right 86GT, my question was tax motivated.
thanks for your reply Rob WH.

 

[Rob WH]

uh, he cares because other countries get taxed by emissions

I thought about that briefly, but decided La Jolla, CA, is still in the USA. :lol:

you're quite right 86GT, my question was tax motivated.
thanks for your reply Rob WH.

You're welcome, though I can only get close as these numbers aren't available publicly yet. With that, there's a table where you can look up many vehicles C02 emissions as tracked by some company in the UK or somewhere else in Europe. Of course, pre-production vehicles won't likely be there. Just type in something like C02 emissions into your browser. You can almost do a match game... looking up cars which use the same or very similar engines as the Mustang will get.

 

[Johnnybear]

my bet is the grocery-getter is the GF's SUV.... even bone stock EVO that are driven hard are known to be problematic. Also most "kids" I know are racing beat Mustangs with 5.0s in them and doing quite well. Sorry but the vast majority of EVO owners I see at the track are in their mid 30s and up with decent middle manager jobs, I think of them as "kids" but not in the same vane as you, the EVO is an expensive car to fool with and prone to drivetrain breakage as the power levels rise. I would admit the engine seems pretty happy at 400 HP

Here ATP 450 HP EVO kit for $2400, we know that this is just the tip of a huge iceberg on what is needed to use 450 HP on a 4WD EVO.

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchan...&Product_Code=ATP-VEVO-004&Category_Code=VEVO

I would speculate there are three and a half kinds of people that will by the EB
1) light to no mods... want 30+ MPG like the torque and balance of the package. May have owned a turbo 2.3 or turbo Dodge 2.2 / 2.5 years ago. 85% of the buyers.
2) mods upto stock turbo limit say 350 HP, downpipe, intercooler, tune, cool air induction, probably do suspension and some racing. 10%
3) 3% mod the car, bigger turbo, fuel system, give up and buy a 5.0
3.5) 2% like to mod, they know they are the underdog, yep I'm sure these are the guys with "street cars" at, 500, 600 or even more HP and up. Most of these guys could easily afford the 5.0, but just don't like anything off the shelf, anybody can make a V8 fast but it takes a real man to make a 4 banger waste as much fuel as a V8.

Just pick the category and if you are in #3, save yourself a lot of grief...

I fit in between 2 and 3, there is always a point where to get more power it is just cubic bucks and dependability in like daily driver, your job depends on you getting to work type. For me I've always promise myself I won't hotrod at least one car, I always hotrod all my cars... So I should be careful and if I really want a 5.0 I should just get that...

You forgot one, the guy who wants all the options on this sweet new mustang design that thinks the extra 10k of price tag for the 5.0 convert is out of budget , but can get a ecoboost convert in his monthly budget. I was looking at replacing my VW wagon (two kids and two dogs) with the Focus ST and it was a blast to drive. I think my test drive was over 1/2 hour long. If they add another 100 HP to the 2.3, or even 75 I would seriously think about getting the EB mustang new. Otherwise, its buying used for this guy as I live in Minnesota and as I said before, I have kids and dogs so I cannot afford a new 5.0 and keep my other car. I wonder what the insurance difference will be between the 5.0 and the EB? A new mustang EB convertible in Guard or Metallic with those saddle seats making 350 HP (hopefully) would be a pretty fun ride. The only thing I would miss is the sound and feel of the 420+ HP of that Coyote 5.0 but as I said before, thats about 100 a month out of my budget.

 

[deeps29]

You forgot one, the guy who wants all the options on this sweet new mustang design that thinks the extra 10k of price tag for the 5.0 convert is out of budget , but can get a ecoboost convert in his monthly budget.

That's me. ;)

 

[Rob WH]

That's me. ;)

Me too... it would be almost exactly what I'm spending now(which is too much anyway), but I don't want a $600 monthly payment. That's why I passed on the Explorer Sport.

 

[JonnyMustang]

Me too... it would be almost exactly what I'm spending now(which is too much anyway), but I don't want a $600 monthly payment. That's why I passed on the Explorer Sport.

I wanted the Sport based solely on the appearance. Fortunately they added the black out package to the XLT for 2015.

 

[Rob WH]

I wanted the Sport based solely on the appearance. Fortunately they added the black out package to the XLT for 2015.

I wanted it for the 3.5L TT V6 as well as appearance and interior... really nice in my opinion. I spent 20k less on my Escape... got less vehicle, to be sure. Still, at little more than 1/2 the price ... well worth passing on the Explorer. I liked my last one so much, it was a must to look for another, but w/o RWD as the main drive wheels, having no V8 option, lacking a frame and that MASSIVE price increase(my Explorer was "only" 36k new), I had to look elsewhere.

Didn't wanna wait for the next Mustang and specifically wanted to avoid the current, so I got the Escape and next... will almost surely be another Mustang. I just can't decide on EB vs GT just yet.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I wonder what the insurance difference will be between the 5.0 and the EB? A new mustang EB convertible in Guard or Metallic with those saddle seats making 350 HP (hopefully) would be a pretty fun ride. The only thing I would miss is the sound and feel of the 420+ HP of that Coyote 5.0 but as I said before, thats about 100 a month out of my budget.

My 2015 GTwill have an insurance premium that's... $18 a month higher than my 2011 V6. So, I'd imagine that insurance costs shouldn't be a factor.

 

[ponyup]

Ordered my Ecoboost Premium 6-speed, went with the PP. I selected the Magnetic paint with the dark saddle interior. The only other add-ons are reverse sensor and all weather floor mats. I have a V-6 Mazda6 and drive on mountain roads frequently. The dealer had to replace the throttle body and gave me the same car in the four cylinder as a loaner. Drove the same mountain road and the lighter weight on the front end was very noticeable. It lacked power but it handled so much better. The Ecoboost should give me outstanding handling with the lighter front end and added muscle. Can't wait to throw it into some corners. Great forum!

 

[Rob WH]

Keep in mind, the Mazda6 is FWD and that makes the front end heavier... Mustang weight bias will be at least close to 50/50 and it's bound to handle far better than the 6 anyway.

The way you ordered sounds good to me, not having tons of things to fidget with and there's only 1 thing I'd have completely said no to... the reverse sensor. The only thing about my Explorer that simply annoyed me every time... was that damned racket when I was trying to navigate out of a parking space, etc. My Escape has them too(all around) and oddly, the rear sensors are no problem, but when I drive over grass or back from a parking space, the front and side sensors are pathetically over-reactive. :thumbdown: Were it up to me, those would be gone... no noise makers, if you please.

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