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Don't ask me... as far as I'm concerned, the 16 SS will simply be ANNIHILATED by the GT350, particularly the R. It simply isn't on par with that car, period. As for raising prices, bank on it. There's ZERO question, unless GM wants to lose profit, prices will go up. It can be compared to the GT...

I can't see it(stock SS keeping up). 1st, it's still going to be at least as heavy... next, it's going to be way down on power. It will prove strong in torque, but the GT350 has a MASSIVE gearing advantage on top of the power. To me, a 1.5+ lat time differential... may as well be a week. That...

The 2016 Camaro SS will be NO MATCH IN ANY AVAILABLE FACTORY FORM, for the Mustang GT350R... and those same nut hugging idiots who believe the 2016 Camaro SS will be all that, will discount that truth by claiming "FORD HAD TO" (insert dunce remark here) just to beat a car it's better than. :doh...

That's really the truth of the matter, looking at results. HUGE POINT HERE... Look how many magazine tests literally GAVE the win to Camaro ZL1 when compared to Mustang Shelby GT500 ... I mean... just GAVE it a win, stating BS like, "but it feels so good" or the like. It seemed to many(and they...

Yeah, I drove the SS within a month or so of hitting dealers back in 2009. Wanted one, but poor visibility killed the idea when my woman instantly said, "This is like trying to see what's behind me in a big truck(which we had back then and she still does) and that sucks." As far as handling...

What's your point here? I mean, it isn't like I said the 1LE is a different model. I simply said that only the 1LE was tested against Mustangs once the 1LE reached production. The reason, clearly... the non 1LE SS got hammered, end of story. GM provided only 1LE versions after that and in their...

That can happen if/when, for example, the 2nd place car in the standings... also didn't podium. If they finished behind the 1st place in standings... the gap will grow.

Yeah, they made a few changes for 2012+, but you may also note, no direct tests with the non 1LE... not because it's excellent. I expect it feels fine, but considering the 2010-on Mustang beat all those SS models tested before the 1LE, I'm not going to say I believe the Camaro is better. I...

:cheers: on the "old chassis" comment. You're exactly right about that. It was 100% about bragging and 0% anything else, even when the Mustang handled better with that older chassis(and it did) until the 1LE came back. Due only to that 1LE, we've seen multiple comparisons with the Camaro...

I'm not convinced CTS-V is overpriced, but I will say that for that echelon, price isn't the biggest concern and neither is pure power. The German counterparts offer much more "stuff" than the Cadillac and that's part(much, perhaps) of why they're so much more expensive. The Camaro pricing, I...

"Would be able to" and "is going to" happen to have two completely different meanings. Nothing against you, but I'm really tired of seeing that phrase totally twisted from what it is, into something it isn't, just to "rub in" something that isn't true. Enough is enough. Nobody who works in...

Not that this matters, but the "R" and non R GT350 both have what I'd call beefed up parts. The fact it weighs less than the typical Mustang GT is actually quite a good sign. As an example, like you said here... ZO6 over standard C7. Hugely different(for all obvious reasons). :lol: You could...

That can definitely make a massive difference and it is worth remembering. :thumbsup:

Heh... that's called "bragging," not a comparison! :ford:

I totally agree with this. I didn't mean to imply which he thought would be better to DD, but that I'd surely prefer the GT and, w/o PP for me, but with an automatic. That said, there is a reason the GT in any form would be a better DD and that reason is, cost of operation. :headbonk: That...

If you meant to ask if a GT350 of any sort is equal to a 1LE, the answer is a resounding NO! The GT350 will simply annihilate the 1LE, but it does cost more. ;) Keep in mind, the GT350 weighs less, has more than 100 additional hp, has better brakes and better suspension in general and is much...

:lol: HILARIOUS! :lol: I really like when we see a thoughtfully funny ad like this! KUDOS to whichever :ford: entity came up with that one. :cheers:

That's part of my thoughts too, that you just won't get the rpm and on a road course, it matters enough that I still see the GT350 having a clear advantage. :thumbsup: For a DD, his point is well taken. I would sooner make a toy of a GT than a GT350, which I'd likely just drive as is for the...

I would think on a drag strip, you're right. I still 100% doubt it would be the same story on a road course w/ same driver. Besides, at that point, you've spent about the same(maybe even more) as you would for the GT350(not this short 15 run, of course) and you'd still lack the name and...

The whole "curb weight" thing has been all over the place for ages. Even so, I took his comment as... 1 official curb weight, but.... but.... the GT350 will weigh xxx and that, to me, meant he wasn't talking about an official curb weight, but the weight of the car. Maybe he meant it as you see...