Next Car?

[rin5.0]

Would you consider the new overpriced M2? I've been thinking about it personally

The S58's are crazy man. Have you seen mhd.tuning on instagram? They gained around ~250whp/~200wtq just from a fuel mix, tune, and downpipes a couple days ago, not sure how accurate since obviously all dynos aren't the same. They're definitely stout cars if you can get them for a "good" price.

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[ShadesOfBloo]

"Plan A" is that I maintain my Mustang and never have to replace it, and my niece or nephew will inherit it. But if I have to replace one of my other cars, I'd consider...

2002-2005 Lexus IS300
Because the 2006+ models are fat, their steering assist is electric and very disconnected from the road
and the 2001 model was only available as an automatic.

2008-2012 Mazda Miata
Because the "NC" chassis is the biggest Miata, and easiest to get in and out of. Out of the NC generation, the middle facelift looks the best.
The engine can mix and match parts with a 4-cylinder Duratec, and there's a lot of aftermarket support, so I could build it as a 2.3 turbo or something if I wanted.
Stock or modified, it would be a better autocross car than anything I own now.

Volvo C30
Because it's a small car with highway gears, and the torque to turn them.
I think the engine has port fuel injection for all models.
Got some criticism for shift feel, but apparently that gets way better by replacing the rear engine mount.

A "stretch goal" might be a Lotus Evora. A mid-engine car with a Toyota V6, so at least the engine will be reliable. I'd really want the "sport" transmission with the closer gears, and I'm not sure how hard it would be to find.

A first-gen NSX is off the list because, if the condition is any good, they've appreciated back to MSRP and beyond.

 

[zstanny]

Gen 2 or 3 Viper. Gen 4 would be sweet but uh.... one, if not two tax brackets out of my league

Seriously though, there's a few decent mileage gen 2-3s dropping into the 70s now. Childhood dream time.

 

[RTFM]

By the time my Mustang will need to be replaced, ICE manual gearbox will be gone. If the next gen EV batteries have been rolled out by then, with the right recharging infrastructure, and if some EV car maker offers a manual gearbox for enthusiasts, that’s what I’ll pick up.

Otherwise, I think I’ll hunt down a second hand not-so-old-timer from the 80s or 90s. Requirements will be ABS, Airbags, and an upgraded stereo system than can do Bluetooth. Porsche 944 Turbo S2, Audi Quattro Coupé GT, and the like would be a perfect fit.

 

[Velocityblue5oh]

The S58's are crazy man. Have you seen mhd.tuning on instagram? They gained around ~250whp/~200wtq just from a fuel mix, tune, and downpipes a couple days ago, not sure how accurate since obviously all dynos aren't the same. They're definitely stout cars if you can get them for a "good" price.

Couldn't agree more. Especially with the M2's smaller wheel base these things will be monsters. Just throw on a JB4 and your pushing at minimum 30-50 more WHP. Too bad about the weight though! The 6 MT has me seriously considering it.

 

[ShadesOfBloo]

...if some EV car maker offers a manual gearbox for enthusiasts, that’s what I’ll pick up.

So, I'm not the only one thinking like that.
Now that some EVs come with a 2-speed automatic, it's a matter of time before there's a 3-speed. The next question is: How do we convince a manufacturer to make that transmission manual?

 

[rin5.0]

Couldn't agree more. Especially with the M2's smaller wheel base these things will be monsters. Just throw on a JB4 and your pushing at minimum 30-50 more WHP. Too bad about the weight though! The 6 MT has me seriously considering it.

Yeah, things weigh as much as our cars now lol. If the A90 Supra gets the S58, which there are rumors it is going to get, I would love to get my hands on one. Although that's not to say the Supra right now with the B58 isn't still a really good car. I'd get one as a second coupe given the chance.

 

[Velocityblue5oh]

So, I'm not the only one thinking like that.
Now that some EVs come with a 2-speed automatic, it's a matter of time before there's a 3-speed. The next question is: How do we convince a manufacturer to make that transmission manual?

Don't see why a company wouldn't want to fit in the niche market of enthusiast cars and develop a manual gearbox for us! Sure it'll happen eventually. Will just have to wait and see. I think some offroader had some type of manual gearbox in an ev. I can't remember which one. I just know it wouldnt stall out ever lol.

 

[RTFM]

How do we convince a manufacturer to make that transmission manual?

We email Toyota to tell that they are on the right track and that we want to give them our money.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/44261/toyota-has-a-patent-to-recreate-manual-transmissions-for-evs

After we all buy that manual EV from Toyota, competition in the market should give us a few more choices a few years later.

 

[MCS]

Audi R8 V10...NA power and great sounding

There is an older white one of these driving around my city. Two younger guys in it (think baseball hat kind). We were at a red light and we both left the intersection at a standard pace. Then he decides to give it, so I gave it. The older V10s were only like 550hp or something like that so I caught him within 30-50 feet then pulled him to the next light. He didn't wave or thumbs up or anything, he just made a left hand turn without even looking at me LOL

Just a note of caution; those cars are loud. I mean LOUD!!! I could hear him over my own engine that is how loud an R8 screams!!! It's a VERY European-sounding car.

 

[Oakley]

911

 

[RTFM]

I think some offroader had some type of manual gearbox in an ev.

That’s the Jeep Magneto EV 2.0.
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/jeep-magneto-ev-manual-transmission-works/

 

[KingKona]

A Miata might be next. Fun, cheap, reliable, with a huge after-market.

 

[ShadesOfBloo]

Don't see why a company wouldn't want to fit in the niche market of enthusiast cars and develop a manual gearbox for us! Sure it'll happen eventually. Will just have to wait and see. I think some offroader had some type of manual gearbox in an ev. I can't remember which one. I just know it wouldn't stall out ever lol.

They seem to be going for other niche markets, first. Ones with lots of money.
The first gear-shifting (mass-produced) EV I heard of was a Porsche.

...Which was funny because after the Elongated Muskrat said his EVs were too powerful to even have a gear-changing transmission, it was easy to imagine Porsche going
"Nein, you are doing it wrong."

"Hold mein bier."

 

[ShadesOfBloo]

We email Toyota to tell that they are on the right track and that we want to give them our money.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/44261/toyota-has-a-patent-to-recreate-manual-transmissions-for-evs

After we all buy that manual EV from Toyota, competition in the market should give us a few more choices a few years later.

I was wondering why Toyota would need a patent for a manual transmission, then I read the article
"...has patented mechanisms that'd let an electric vehicle simulate the operation of a manual down to the last gritty, gear-grinding detail."

"...they describe an EV that can switch between "control modes" of standard driving and a simulated H-pattern manual..."
"...a third pedal equipped with a "pedal reaction force generator" that pushes back on the driver's foot, and even vibrates to mimic the feeling of a clutch dragging on a flywheel while partially disengaged."

So, it's not a manual transmission, just a complicated input device.

They've created a complicated electronic and software problem where there didn't need need to be one.
If they'd install a real manual transmission, they don't have to program anything. There's no computer that needs to read sensors and decide when to shift, because the driver decides.

EDIT: There, I'm done hijacking this thread. I didn't come to debate the anti-shifting crowd.

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