New member, looking for advice

[wenklaw]

Personal choice, but not to me.

2 series be like a Bavarian Kia Sorento...

Very, very capable but a small family car, lacking in style or personality. Yes big engine, yes big wheels and yes big body kit, but it’s still a small family car.

Cue Mustang, even Orangemans Camaro, give me a purpose designed coupe any day

Spot on it’s personal choice but your opinion of the m2 is off the mark. If you don’t like German cars fine, I don’t care, I’m not a fan of all sorts of cars but always accept when a car is due praise. Does a mustang gt have particularly more character than an m2, for me not really, both wonderful and both with bold characters.

The Mustang is no more of a built from the ground sports coupe than an m2, are you mad? It’s a very very compromised car with a big engine stuck in it, which I love BUT by god it has its faults.

if you can’t see that your opinion to me matters not one jot.

Accept it for what it is.

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[Entai]

truth hurts aye.only a car dude..never ever get over attached to a possesion..it's just a car.
you know i'm right ofc. just all blinkered by it all lol
GO TEST DRIVE THE CAMARO . you will be amazed 100 percent

I have driven a Camaro, personally speaking it did not drive a patch on my 2019 Mustang.

Far prefer RHD, far prefer magneride, far prefer the 10 speed auto.

All around the 2019 Magneride equipped auto Mustang is by far the better driving experience in the UK on UK roads.

 

[marks]

Personal choice, but not to me.

2 series be like a Bavarian Kia Sorento...

Very, very capable but a small family car, lacking in style or personality. Yes big engine, yes big wheels and yes big body kit, but it’s still a small family car.

Please don't insult the Kia Sorrento. Kia have confidence in the reliability of their cars with a 7 year warranty, unlike BMW who only offer 3 years.

 

[wenklaw]

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Please don't insult the Kia Sorrento. Kia have confidence in the reliability of their cars with a 7 year warranty, unlike BMW who only offer 3 years.

Ford don’t need to offer long warranties as most owners have usually had enough long before then.
Loads of cheap quips out there mate.

 

[Gregs24]

The Mustang is no more of a built from the ground sports coupe than an m2, are you mad? It’s a very very compromised car with a big engine stuck in it, which I love BUT by god it has its faults.

To be fair the Mustang has a unique platform that was only ever designed to be used by the Mustang - so it is a ground up designed coupe. This is actually a bad thing for Ford as having a platform for only 1 vehicle is an expensive way of doing things. Future Mustangs will probably ride on the CD6 platform or a derivative.

The M2 uses the modular CLAR platform used by pretty much all of the RWD BMW range.

Not saying one or other is better just pedantry on my part !

 

[marks]

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Ford don’t need to offer long warranties as most owners have usually had enough long before then.
Loads of cheap quips out there mate.

Not a cheap quip but a fact.

And here's why BMW only offer 3 year warranty and make you pay through the nose to extend it:
Kia at 8th, Ford in 9th and BMW in......23rd

But don't get me wrong im a big fan of the M2. And yes i would much rather have a BMW than Audi

 

[wenklaw]

To be fair the Mustang has a unique platform that was only ever designed to be used by the Mustang - so it is a ground up designed coupe. This is actually a bad thing for Ford as having a platform for only 1 vehicle is an expensive way of doing things. Future Mustangs will probably ride on the CD6 platform or a derivative.

The M2 uses the modular CLAR platform used by pretty much all of the RWD BMW range.

Not saying one or other is better just pedantry on my part !

But pretty much everything else isn’t specifically made for the Mustang aren’t most parts either from other vehicles and/or modified, that’s what I’ve read but I take your point and am probably wrong
However the pretty sure the F22 m2 and 2 series coupes aren’t on the CLAR platform but your right it does use the same platform as the RWD 1 series

Not a cheap quip but a fact.

And here's why BMW only offer 3 year warranty and make you pay through the nose to extend it:
Kia at 8th, Ford in 9th and BMW in......23rd

But don't get me wrong im a big fan of the M2. And yes i would much rather have a BMW than Audi

There are various views that go alongside various customer satisfaction reports and one is people’s expectations are people’s expectations different depending on what car they buy? I’m not saying hard facts are wrong if we’re talking about full breakdowns but I take them at face value and always take my own experiences and friends into consideration.

You clearly don’t like certain brands and enjoy your Mustang which is good for you. I am probably a bit more critical of things I own and not particularly loyal although they day I buy a Kia is the day my life may as well end

 

[WD Pro]

Hey don't pick on Kia ... lol

My Sportage has served me well over the nine years I've had it - only one recall (seat belt tensioner for which mine wasn't included), a warranty claim on a poorly fitted door seal (causing premature wear) and replacement rear fog lights (UV coating starting to fail), oh yeah, 16 wheels on it too all courtesy of Kia and their poor choice when selecting a diamond turned finish ...

Other than that its been a great family car with very low running costs, other than it's annual service plan i'm just about to spend the first 'maintenance' money on it since it was new - it's having a mini refurb in preparation for the mustang arrival (wheels / tyres / disks / pads / painted calipers etc). Other than that I think its had one puncture and two sets of wiper blades.

If I hadn't of bought the Sportage, I wouldn't have had the opportunity to buy a mustang and the Sportage will continue with 'family' duties and keep wear n tear / winter salt etc off the mustang.

I like M cars (a lot), but without the extended warranty on my M3 I would have been a (very) poor man - snapped a camshaft at 55k which took out all the valves and timing gear ...

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[wenklaw]

Looks like 0% apr is back on options until 30th September according to a promo email I’ve received.

 

[Gregs24]

However the pretty sure the F22 m2 and 2 series coupes aren’t on the CLAR platform but your right it does use the same platform as the RWD 1 series

Sorry I thought you were talking about the current 2 series (UKL2) / M2 (CLAR) which uses a completely different platform to the regular 2 series. Very much like the old Escort Cosworth in the video above which used the old Sierra Cosworth platform rather than a modified Escort.

The old F22 M2 was a modified 1 series platform

 

[marks]

You clearly don’t like certain brands and enjoy your Mustang which is good for you. I am probably a bit more critical of things I own and not particularly loyal although they day I buy a Kia is the day my life may as well end

And that's what Audi, Mercedes etc rely on. They can keep churning out overpriced unreliable metal but fanboys will keep buying them because they think people are impressed that they are driving an Audi etc. They then get ripped off on the warranty, servicing etc when a lot of buyers of these cars can least afford it.

The more shrewd will have no qualms in at least considering a reliable 7 year warranty Kia, especially as the depreciation is similar to a run of the mill Audi etc.

Im not loyal to any brand.

 

[Gregs24]

You clearly don’t like certain brands and enjoy your Mustang which is good for you. I am probably a bit more critical of things I own and not particularly loyal although they day I buy a Kia is the day my life may as well end

And that's what Audi, Mercedes etc rely on. They can keep churning out overpriced unreliable metal but fanboys will keep buying them because they think people are impressed that they are driving an Audi etc. They then get ripped off on the warranty, servicing etc when a lot of buyers of these cars can least afford it.

The more shrewd will have no qualms in at least considering a reliable 7 year warranty Kia, especially as the depreciation is similar to a run of the mill Audi etc.

Im not loyal to any brand.

Kia Stinger GT-S is a properly good car by any standards.

With Audi, BMW and Mercedes you are certainly paying extra for a badge, which matters to some people. If you are bothered about that sort of thing then you pays your money and makes your choice.

Focus v A3 ? Focus every time for me as it has a better spec, better drive and better value, but nobody will notice you. Audi will be more of a statement to other people. Both are really good cars but they appeal to different people. In fact if you are considering an A3, you should actually buy a Seat or Skoda but won't for the same reason.

Horses for courses

 

[Gregs24]

Looks like 0% apr is back on options until 30th September according to a promo email I’ve received.

0% on pretty much any Ford at the moment with deposit contributions on finance as well. (Options or Acquire) and not just dealer stock. So in effect better than 0% but they can't actually do negative interest rates ! This excludes dealer discounts which are on top. The second hand market is busy with a shortage of stock (lack of trade in cars) so up front discounts are not currently affecting residuals and trade in / second hand values are strong. Genuinely a good time to buy a new car.

Like all car makers they want to shift some metal to try and start a recovery.

 

[wenklaw]

I have a focus as well but a VW Golf and A3 in my opinion are better finished products. Why do I have a Focus then? Well at the time it was 0% apr in the Acquire scheme plus hefty discounts which made it a lot cheaper than a Golf or a3. The focus is a bloody good car however the new ST at near £30k throws it into a category albeit it at the lower cost end of cars that offer more again in my opinion.

However when I purchased my m135i in 2015 the Focus RS was also in my radar, similar sticker prices (m135i rrp was actually more)however once factoring in everything else the RS was realistically £5k more and for me just wasn’t worth the extra, engine issues, cabin pretty darn lousy for a £35k car, 4 door only. Great to drive but just didn’t tick the boxes I thought it would, maybe a younger mans car!!
Sticker prices mean diddly most use PCP’s where a bad APR v 0% can cost you thousands of pounds and I mean absolute thousands add that to different discounts and it can get to 5 figures

 

[wenklaw]

i have a 2018 hyundai tucson awd diesel premium 2.0 automatic..me and the wife love it..so damn nice to drive and cheap to own. also have 2 motorbikes. since we paid off our mortgage we have 1k a week spare nowadays for toys.
never owned any german car as i'm a tight bastard and refuse to pay the running costs and depreciation.
nobody should even consider buying any luxery item anyway untill first all debts are paid off including the mortgage and secondly neither your wife or kids want for anything.
no way on this planet would i put 40k cash into a yank motor if we had a mortgage and my 2 sons and wife needed anything.

seriously mate jog on back to where you came. every car forum I’ve been on even the bad ones (including the cars I wasn’t that keen on) not once have I been a troll, are you aware that being a troll is the same as being an argumentative alcoholic, everyone talks to you but ultimately thinks your a ????

your opinion is noted and filed accordingly.

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