Mustang "Lithium" Battery Electric Prototype Signals Future With 900+ HP / 1000 FT-LBS Torque!

[Hack]

Transmissions in EVs are good for speed... Not range due to losses in the transmission itself (driveline loss). That is why the most you see in EVs today are 2 speed gear boxes if any. One gear for low and one for high speed. I seriously doubt that MT82 can survive behind that motor for to long. It is not really the amount of torque but the fact that it is instantaneous that destroys a transmission.

Certainly a interesting concept and a great tool to get more people on board with an EV mustang but nothing more.

Agreed - it's a marketing device. Electronics can easily limit or apply torque in a smooth manner if necessary to help the gearbox live, though.

So its almost a guarantee that in 10-20 years, this is the future of mustangs.

That is a dystopian future. I prefer to believe in the ingenuity of the human race and hope that we can find a way to continue driving cars that are powered by explosions and give more freedom back to the people. It's obvious that the people on this web forum want V8 gas engines. In my opinion it's not right for the government to take those engines away from us. If people on here really believed the environmental BS they certainly wouldn't be driving Mustangs, right?

Which is why coal is on its way out also. It's been long proved that even including recycling the battery over the life of an electric car its still better for the environment than a gas car.

Completely untrue. Batteries keep changing and improving. There's no consistent battery construction/tech that you can point to and say something is "long proven".

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[tokuzumi]

I'm interested in electric vehicles, but not until the infrastructure is built up enough where there is sufficient charging options available for mass consumption (meaning, swap the EV/Gas ownership figures).

Also, the TFL Car channel showed the downside of charging a Tesla when going around town. So many different companies own and maintain the charging stations that you need to have an account with each company, otherwise you may not be able to charge your vehicle there. Hours of operation also impact when you can and cannot charge. Plus, every EV has a different proprietary plug which requires a series of adapters to make a car work with a particular plug. And charging is usually very slow....maybe 5-6 miles of range per hour. Would take 24+ hours to "fill the tank".

Gas cars don't have this limitation. Just open the gas cap, insert the pump nozzle, and start pumping gas. Doesn't matter the station (BP, Shell, Exxon) or the region. Only nozzle difference is between gas and diesel.

 

[Bikeman315]

I'm interested in electric vehicles, but not until the infrastructure is built up enough where there is sufficient charging options available for mass consumption (meaning, swap the EV/Gas ownership figures).

Also, the TFL Car channel showed the downside of charging a Tesla when going around town. So many different companies own and maintain the charging stations that you need to have an account with each company, otherwise you may not be able to charge your vehicle there. Hours of operation also impact when you can and cannot charge. Plus, every EV has a different proprietary plug which requires a series of adapters to make a car work with a particular plug. And charging is usually very slow....maybe 5-6 miles of range per hour. Would take 24+ hours to "fill the tank".

Gas cars don't have this limitation. Just open the gas cap, insert the pump nozzle, and start pumping gas. Doesn't matter the station (BP, Shell, Exxon) or the region. Only nozzle difference is between gas and diesel.

I'm guessing your not old enough to remember leaded vs. unleaded gas. Different nozzles that created quite a stir back in the day.

Like everything else, this will evolve. Someday we will have universal charging stations and hopefully universal plugs.

 

[tokuzumi]

Leaded gas was on its way out when I was a kid (I'm a late 70s baby). Grandfather had a 66 Belvedere which required leaded gas. There was one station near the house that had it. But I was way too young to pump gas when leaded went the way of the dodo, so I would have never known about the nozzle difference.

 

[TexasRebel]

I'm guessing your not old enough to remember leaded vs. unleaded gas. Different nozzles that created quite a stir back in the day.

Like everything else, this will evolve. Someday we will have universal charging stations and hopefully universal plugs.

The nozzles weren't different, people were smarter. You could easily pump leaded gasoline into a vehicle with a catalytic converter.

 

[FreePenguin]

you cant put leaded gasoline in a converter car? I didn't know that. ive never seen a leaded pump though.

 

[TexasRebel]

Imagine a blackout and you don't have the juice to get to work...or worse, home.

If you have a blackout the gas pumps will not work. They run on electricity.

Funny... Gasoline stations were widespread long before electricity was.

 

[TexasRebel]

you cant put leaded gasoline in a converter car? I didn't know that. ive never seen a leaded pump though.

Tetraethyllead fouls the catalyst.

 

[tokuzumi]

Can't say I've seen any of those pumps at any of the stations I've been to since I've began driving in the early 90s

 

[Bikeman315]

Funny... Gasoline stations were widespread long before electricity was.

I love these. The pricing on the Texaco pump is hysterical. Back then they used 8/10th. Wonder why?

 

[TexasRebel]

Which is why coal is on its way out also. It's been long proved that even including recycling the battery over the life of an electric car its still better for the environment than a gas car.

I'm going to need to see some sources for that.

Between manufacturing the batteries, charging the batteries, disposing/recycling the batteries, and impact damaged batteries has, it's extremely difficult to just wash this over as "fact".

 

[Bikeman315]

you cant put leaded gasoline in a converter car? I didn't know that. ive never seen a leaded pump though.

They had to go to unleaded gas because of the catalytic converters. Put leaded gas into an unleaded car destroyed the CC.

 

[TexasRebel]

I love these. The pricing on the Texaco pump is hysterical. Back then they used 8/10th. Wonder why?

once upon a time it was common to see various tenths in the pricing. Back when a dime was worth a dollar. My father has stories about keeping the station he worked at in high school 1/10 under the guy down the road.

 

[Bikeman315]

The nozzles weren't different, people were smarter. You could easily pump leaded gasoline into a vehicle with a catalytic converter.

I used to pump gas at my Father in Laws gas station. The unleaded nozzle was smaller so you couldn't put leaded in.

https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/140619

 

[Bikeman315]

Can't say I've seen any of those pumps at any of the stations I've been to since I've began driving in the early 90s

Yeah, your'e too young.

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