MSRP GT350

[OH5GT 2 S550]

No. But, I do think there is more passion and fantasy fulfillment driving the decision rather than logic and homework.

Here's my take...I am saying that if you choose either model and pay an ADM you're taking a big loss long term and gambling that your car will be worth more than what you initially pay for it in your lifetime. And I'm saying that ain't gonna happen. You might be long dead and buried before you do for this car.

And

If you're buying an "R" as a purpose built track day car because you're suddenly Paul Newman and want to go racing every weekend.... Then maybe you're making a good choice. But not for an ADM.

If you're looking for a daily driver or an alternative to more traditional middle income bracket vehicles like a BMW...then an "R" is simply overkill or in reality less of a real daily purpose car for a lot more money. For more practical people, like my spouse who roots me back to the real world they just don't see the value there. They see the loss and the compromise for a want over a need(yes having a car comparable to a european Performance coupe is actually a need for people who work hard like most middle income bracket Americans). And with ADM...now they see a mid 60k car priced into a league of better cars for 80k.

If you think that logic is wrong...then you are in fact in the minority.

There are good matches out there for an "R". Many of us just think we are. But that's also a good thing. Because maybe we'll see those same "R"'s back on the Market when the owners are too old to deal with the clutch or the ride or the cabin noise or the fact that they don't really know what they're doing and just haven't got what it takes to really impress anyone with it on a track with the exception of themselves when they get in it and rev the motor while playing with the active exhaust for their friends and onlookers....that gets tired pretty quick too.

Very few of us are gonna be driving it up the rear of a Corvette or Porshes on Track day...because we're not race car drivers. In fact odds are most of those who do buy it...will be waxing it every weekend then driving it through main street with the windows down to hear all the peeps complimenting your ride. Here's a wake up call.....That gets tired pretty quickly, too.

If you are one of the rare few who do race and take it seriously, and train and take lessons, then this is an investment in what makes you happy. And you are also in the minority.

I can respect all of you for getting what you want and what makes you happy. But, I can also Shake my head at those who paid through the nose just to have it...to say I have it because I could afford it. Really? Even wealthy people feel the hurt when they've been raked over the coals. At least the ones who earned that wealth do.

Try putting 10, 20 or 30k or more in a latrine and walk away. Its really the same as paying an ADM. Hate on me if you want....but if you think about it...That's what it amounts to... And well I just feel bad for those who embrace it. You're all nice people...but there are better things to throw your money away for.

Do you talk about anything other than ADM's...it doesn't seem like it....:headbonk:

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[Steve68]

Here's Ricky Bobby's take on it. He knows because I'm sure he would drive an R like a real racecar driver.

 

[cjgt350]

Here's Ricky Bobby's take on it. He knows because I'm sure he would drive an R like a real racecar driver.

LMAO!! Awesome Steve...that is too damn funny!

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

You're qualifying people who are professional now and trying to make sense from it. In the short of it.

You're fantasizing. And that's okay. If in your world everyone is a racer... then enjoy your world, the rest of us.... Will enjoy our money that we didn't spend on those ADM's. Life's too short to argue with people about how they spend their money, but if you're gonna brag about it you might as well be ready to accept you're a little...you know.

I agree if they (or you) want the "R" more power to them. If they want to say I paid over 30k to get it... Well.. Sorry but, they might as well be sitting right next to you and throwing that money in the same latrine. I really don't give a care in the world what they(or you) do with their money. If that what makes them happy...Kudos.

I can appreciate the car and still look down at the owner if they're going to raise their hand in public and announce "Yes, I threw my money away". Because that's just stupid. Sorry. It just is.

You're not raising your hand right? I mean, I know you would prefer to not give away your money for nothing. You're very intelligent and from most of your posts some people would actually see that you are.....

Its all relative Cruzin......what I think is a waste is not finishing a beer ..I call it alcohol abuse.....not spend money on a ADM. I may think its a deal at what ever the cost...I do not need to convince you that I made a good or bad decision and real its not fair for you to impose your opinion...its not stupid it different priorities...come on you know better than that... :shrug:

 

[Cruzinaround]

Its all relative Cruzin......what I think is a waste is not finishing a beer ..I call it alcohol abuse.....not spend money on a ADM. I may think its a deal at what ever the cost...I do not need to convince you that I made a good or bad decision and real its not fair for you to impose your opinion...its not stupid it different priorities...come on you know better than that... :shrug:

Opinions are all over these forums buddy. I might raise my hand for my decisions...but I ain't gonna raise my hand and claim I threw away my money.

Now raising it and claiming I did indeed find a fair deal and inspiring other to do the same....That's cool. Saying its only money and I can spend it anyway I want it is .... well just looking for ridicule. Sorry Donson.

Did you pay an ADM? Is that what you're trying to say? If you did well, my apologies for anything I said to make you feel attacked. I certainly did not single you or anyone out. My opinions are just that. Some will agree and some will agree to disagree.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Here's Ricky Bobby's take on it. He knows because I'm sure he would drive an R like a real racecar driver.

You do realize he's a fictional representation of a person who would buy an "R" right?

 

[Readfast]

Its all relative Cruzin......what I think is a waste is not finishing a beer ..I call it alcohol abuse.....not spend money on a ADM. I may think its a deal at what ever the cost...I do not need to convince you that I made a good or bad decision and real its not fair for you to impose your opinion...its not stupid it different priorities...come on you know better than that... :shrug:

Yes wasting a beer should be a crime!:cheers:

 

[Cruzinaround]

Its all relative Cruzin......what I think is a waste is not finishing a beer ..I call it alcohol abuse.....not spend money on a ADM. I may think its a deal at what ever the cost...I do not need to convince you that I made a good or bad decision and real its not fair for you to impose your opinion...its not stupid it different priorities...come on you know better than that... :shrug:

Sorry DONSON. I don't Drink, don't smoke, never did drugs. And I was raised in the hood and grew up learning the value of hard work and earned my money the old fashioned way. I have a profound respect for people who appreciate that hard work and really don't care to be the subject of ridicule because I choose to practice more common sense and not throw away my money. I celebrate that for myself and others. For the ones who embrace throwing it away and brag about that...well, if you're going to raise your hand.... then I can then offer my opinion. Its done to me all the time for simply celebrating that I don't throw my money away. So yes.... its all relative. If others can relate to me for celebrating my savings, then I can relate to them for celebrating their wastefulness.

 

[stanglife]

So true. New cars are not. I did buy the Ford GT at MSRP and think it was 165k. A year later i sold it for 190 or 195k. 5000 units is not a small amount of cars. I think the R will hold up much better than the base model. As far as over MSRP well i cant point fingers as i have done it on a Porsche and lost a lot of money and i wont be doing that again.
Vince

+1 - and all except for a few Porsche models take a HUGE depreciation hit in the first few years. I'm looking at a 2014 Cayman S that was $85k..now 65k with a couple thousand miles.

 

[krt22]

Here's Ricky Bobby's take on it. He knows because I'm sure he would drive an R like a real racecar driver.

Why do you think I said with all due respect :cheers:

 

[Five Oh Brian]

Its all relative Cruzin......what I think is a waste is not finishing a beer ..I call it alcohol abuse.....not spend money on a ADM. I may think its a deal at what ever the cost...I do not need to convince you that I made a good or bad decision and real its not fair for you to impose your opinion...its not stupid it different priorities...come on you know better than that... :shrug:

I really enjoy reading your posts, Donson! Always funny and level headed. You, sir, are the voice of reason.

 

[Twin Turbo]

Gentlemen.......please keep it civil, thank you.

 

[OH5GT 2 S550]

Sorry DONSON. I don't Drink, don't smoke, never did drugs. And I was raised in the hood and grew up learning the value of hard work and earned my money the old fashioned way. I have a profound respect for people who appreciate that hard work and really don't care to be the subject of ridicule because I choose to practice more common sense and not throw away my money. I celebrate that for myself and others. For the ones who embrace throwing it away and brag about that...well, if you're going to raise your hand.... then I can then offer my opinion. Its done to me all the time for simply celebrating that I don't throw my money away. So yes.... its all relative. If others can relate to me for celebrating my savings, then I can relate to them for celebrating their wastefulness.

But yet you ridicule dealerships and anyone who pays ADM, HMMMMMMMM

 

[Cruzinaround]

But yet you ridicule dealerships and anyone who pays ADM, HMMMMMMMM

Yes... I do. The ones that raise their hands and proclaim...."Yup I charge ADMs cause I can" and the people that raise their hands and say "Yup I'm gonna pay it cause I can."

Especially on a thread where the topic is MSRP. Because the goals for most people here who get it.....

Is MSRP.

ya follow?

 

[Hack]

Yes... I do. The ones that raise their hands and proclaim...."Yup I charge ADMs cause I can" and the people that raise their hands and say "Yup I'm gonna pay it cause I can."

Especially on a thread where the topic is MSRP. Because the goals for most people here who get it.....

Is MSRP.

ya follow?

MSRP goal is a simplistic view. Isn't the goal really to own a GT350? Then the decision comes - what are you willing to do to reach that first goal? Some people have connections, some have money, some have lots of time.. people use their resources they have available to reach the goal - owning the car.

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