MSRP GT350

[Cruzinaround]

Look, the dealers ALL bought into this program when they forked over $1000 to participate. They asked to be part of the program. Even prior to the forking over of the $1000 participation fee, Ford never told them how many units would be produced... there was speculation from a certain few auto magazines who sourced Mustang6G.com as the source, citing that 5000 units/year would happen. So far, no one has been able to pin that down, but a few on here have heard from the higher-ups of the Shelby program that this car would follow the production numbers of the 12/13 B302.

When the dealers got wind of those low volume numbers and they started witnessing the crazy-arse popularity and demand for this car, they started seeing $$$. When I signed my contract to purchase my car, Ford humbly asked that all dealers respect the MSRP. They can't force anyone to do any different.

Then you have the dealers who are not motivated to get educated about the process, nor educate their salesman... a perfect example would be Cruiznaround who dealt with a salesman who didn't even know how to read the order sheet. I also have encountered a dealer who kept sitting on emails from Ford as to what allocations they received.

So you can't blame Ford... this is some of the crap that comes along with low-volume production of any sort.

Do you happen to know the language on that email sent from FORD Corp to all dealers asking that they kindly respect the MSRP?

It would be interesting to also remind the sellers that such an e-mail was sent out from FORD.

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[DrumReaper]

Do you happen to know the language on that email sent from FORD Corp to all dealers asking that they kindly respect the MSRP?

It would be interesting to also remind the sellers that such an e-mail was sent out from FORD.

It doesn't pertain to dealer allotted cars. It only, to my knowledge, appeals to VIP cars.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Still interesting that FORD is even asking that the MSRP is honored.

It clearly reflects that even the VIP's are not stupid people and value how they spend their money.

 

[Hack]

Thanks. To think I let my deposit go on another R where the ADM was just too much to bear in order to secure this more reasonable ADM
one that the dealership is trying to screw me out of...

Good luck! I hope you get it.

I know the thought crossed my mind of offering a dealership more money to jump forward in line, but I felt as though it was the wrong thing to do. It's not really immoral for me to offer the dealership money I don't think (unless I'm aware that they already have an agreement with someone and I'm asking them directly to break that agreement), but it would be unethical for them to do what happened to you, and I might be tempting them to do it.

So the sad thing to me is there is another buyer out there who is contributing to this problem. I can't fault people for wanting a car, but I do fault the dealer for reneging (potentially) on an agreement.

 

[DrumReaper]

Still interesting that FORD is even asking that the MSRP is honored.

It clearly reflects that even the VIP's are not stupid people and value how they spend their money.

Wouldn't look good on Ford to personally invite someone to purchase a car only to have the dealer mark it up... that would be absurd.

Now, dealer allotments are a different story.

 

[krt22]

Wouldn't look good on Ford to personally invite someone to purchase a car only to have the dealer mark it up... that would be absurd.

Now, dealer allotments are a different story.

Agreed.

 

[Stingray23]

I'm not surprised at all with the BS Ford dealers. Of all the cars I've owned, the worst experience by far were the Ford purchases. 3 yrs ago I went looking for a Raptor. It took me 3 months of back and forth with tons of dealers trying to get one to discount it a bit. I got every BS answer and excuse you can think of. I finally found one about 500 miles away for a great discount and an awesome trade in value on my Z06. I just recently tried to order a GT350 and got the same BS everyone else is dealing with. $10K over sticker. What a joke.

 

[Steve68]

I refuse to let Ford and its dealers make me feel like they're doing me a favor by selling me a car, under any circumstances. So yes, while it is Ford's right to produce a vehicle in whatever numbers they choose, to say that these dealer shenanigans are not a direct result of that is absurd. And like others have said, it's only going to push me to another brand if Ford's choices allow the Dealership Hunger Games to continue.

 

[Blk2015GT]

Sorry but this happens with all brands, and not just Ford. When the C7 Z06 (GM) came out, ADM (even the base Stingray has an ADM when it first came out when supply was limited). When the Hellcat (Chrysler) came out, ADM. In fact last I saw 2-3 months ago Hellcats still carried an ADM in many cases to get one.

Again, all of these cars plus the GT350, you MAY get at MSRP. It depends on the dealership and your relationship with them really.

Any car in high demand and short supply will carry an ADM at most dealerships until production picks up/more on the market. Don't think you'll go elsewhere and suddenly another manufacturer (who doesnt set the ADM anyway) has any more morals.

 

[Cruzinaround]

I refuse to let Ford and its dealers make me feel like they're doing me a favor by selling me a car, under any circumstances. So yes, while it is Ford's right to produce a vehicle in whatever numbers they choose, to say that these dealer shenanigans are not a direct result of that is absurd. And like others have said, it's only going to push me to another brand if Ford's choices allow the Dealership Hunger Games to continue.

Its not Ford, its clearly...just a majority of dealers. And from what I gather...its also some GM's and salespeople in collusion to rake in as much as they can. The thing is they tend to price the car into areas where other cars look just as tempting.

 

[Steve68]

I don't disagree with anything you just said. I didn't buy any of the cars you mentioned either. The Challenger is fugly, and I would be hard pressed to buy any Chrysler product, but I might consider a C7 as an alternative.

Wanting a GT350 is much like being an alcoholic. I'm past anger and denial and fully in the acceptance phase.

 

[DrumReaper]

I refuse to let Ford and its dealers make me feel like they're doing me a favor by selling me a car, under any circumstances. So yes, while it is Ford's right to produce a vehicle in whatever numbers they choose, to say that these dealer shenanigans are not a direct result of that is absurd. And like others have said, it's only going to push me to another brand if Ford's choices allow the Dealership Hunger Games to continue.

Well, then what do you propose? If you have such a strong feeling towards Ford as being the source of the problem what ideas do you have to remedy the solution of low volume, high demand economics?

Why don't all the manufacturers of the world simply say, "Sure, come on in and we will make what you want, how you want it and it whatever volume the public demands." That's stooped economics.

Grab a set man and deal with it. There are remedies to the ADM... search for an MSRP. If you are offered a car with a realist ADM then you really didn't want the car in the first place. I would have been willing to get my R with a slight ADM but than God I was blessed not to.

After all, how can you blame Ford when they're releasing the car at MSRP?

And as for Ford feeling like they've done you a favor?... Lol... get a grip on that narcissism man. Ford don't need you to succeed. Where you don't pay, someone who wants the car more than you will. Smh...:headbonk:

 

[krt22]

Yeah you really can't fault ford for this one. Only fault to them is designing such a bad ass car that everyone now wants and cant have right away

 

[Cruzinaround]

Well, then what do you propose? If you have such a strong feeling towards Ford as being the source of the problem what ideas do you have to remedy the solution of low volume, high demand economics?

Why don't all the manufacturers of the world simply say, "Sure, come on in and we will make what you want, how you want it and it whatever volume the public demands." That's stooped economics.

Grab a set man and deal with it. There are remedies to the ADM... search for an MSRP. If you are offered a car with a realist ADM then you really didn't want the car in the first place. I would have been willing to get my R with a slight ADM but than God I was blessed not to.

After all, how can you blame Ford when they're releasing the car at MSRP?

And as for Ford feeling like they've done you a favor?... Lol... get a grip on that narcissism man. Ford don't need you to succeed. Where you don't pay, someone who wants the car more than you will. Smh...:headbonk:

It's really simple. In the retail world where hot products come and go all the time.... Its first come first serve at the List prices released by the Manufacturer. AKA MSRP.

It's ONLY in the Auto industry where these stupid selling tactics come into play.

Its also why their reputation as vultures precedes them. The more American you tend to buy... the more the vultures come out to prey.

FORD has nothing to do with what a dealer ultimately sells the car at.

 

[Steve68]

Well, then what do you propose? If you have such a strong feeling towards Ford as being the source of the problem what ideas do you have to remedy the solution of low volume, high demand economics?

Why don't all the manufacturers of the world simply say, "Sure, come on in and we will make what you want, how you want it and it whatever volume the public demands." That's stooped economics.

Grab a set man and deal with it. There are remedies to the ADM... search for an MSRP. If you are offered a car with a realist ADM then you really didn't want the car in the first place. I would have been willing to get my R with a slight ADM but than God I was blessed not to.

After all, how can you blame Ford when they're releasing the car at MSRP?

And as for Ford feeling like they've done you a favor?... Lol... get a grip on that narcissism man. Ford don't need you to succeed. Where you don't pay, someone who wants the car more than you will. Smh...:headbonk:

I'll ignore your insults for now, as well as the obvious stuff. But this is the part you don't seem to understand, Ford is clearly not releasing the car at MSRP. It's also clear that you didn't major in economics. You seem to advocate this "economics" model that you have in your head because I think you've said that you've already ordered or even purchased a car and the feeling I get from your posts is that you view this as some sort of investment and thus fully advocate the "low volume, high demand" to protect your "investment".

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