MSRP GT350

[sticker]

Of course. Captain hindsight to the rescue. We all know what Ford did in the past. Hindsight is 20/20, we get it by now. You cannot be wrong looking back now at what someone didnt know looking forward in 2005, 2010, 2012 etc. with the new platform limited runs cars coming out.

New car, new model, new platform. No one knows how many will or will not be built besides the 5000/500 Rs as Ford officially stated. (except apparently sticker).

OK, so Ford will then be breaking with tradition and build fewer units than can be sold? You seem to find humor in anyone who mentions history here for some weird reason or are you just uncomfortable with common sense

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[ElSanchez302]

Hey ElSanchez

I noticed your dealer has a very early build 2016 (#21!) that has actually been built according to the vin and blend date. When are you guys expecting it on the lot?

You are correct. And I wouldn't even want to answer that. ETA's from Ford right now are about as solid as a wet spaghetti noodle. lol I wouldn't give those dates too much validity...more of a good roundabout guess. I can't wait to rev the hell out of it to 10k rpm and do some donuts though. :eyebulge::lol:

And to all those out there, there will be less GT350's produced than Boss' were. That's a great figure to follow. Hence the reason for the ADM.

I'll say this, to all those blaming the dealers, dealers don't set the market. Buyers do. If dealers couldn't sell them at ADM, they wouldn't and they'd discount the cars...even the factory would jump in with rebates. But, that is not the case with this car. I don't see a single person complain about when they get a car/truck for invoice or less than invoice or just a hell of a deal in general, but god forbid you pay the mark up for a highly desirable car. One way the dealer is the greatest and the other way they are the devil, right? The market swings both ways. In this case, you're paying more than sticker. I can't afford that ADM, and so, I won't have one. Sucks for me but I don't blame anyone for paying an ADM to have the car they desire...and in the end, that's what a GT350 is...a WANT, not a need.

 

[sticker]

You are correct. And I wouldn't even want to answer that. ETA's from Ford right now are about as solid as a wet spaghetti noodle. lol I wouldn't give those dates too much validity...more of a good roundabout guess. I can't wait to rev the hell out of it to 10k rpm and do some donuts though. :eyebulge::lol:

And to all those out there, there will be less GT350's produced than Boss' were. That's a great figure to follow. Hence the reason for the ADM.

I'll say this, to all those blaming the dealers, dealers don't set the market. Buyers do. If dealers couldn't sell them at ADM, they wouldn't and they'd discount the cars...even the factory would jump in with rebates. But, that is not the case with this car. I don't see a single person complain about when they get a car/truck for invoice or less than invoice or just a hell of a deal in general, but god forbid you pay the mark up for a highly desirable car. One way the dealer is the greatest and the other way they are the devil, right? The market swings both ways. In this case, you're paying more than sticker. I can't afford that ADM, and so, I won't have one. Sucks for me but I don't blame anyone for paying an ADM to have the car they desire...and in the end, that's what a GT350 is...a WANT, not a need.

Thank You for straightening us out Mr car salesman.

 

[garagelogic]

Thank You for straightening us out Mr car salesman.

You sound mad because what he stated is absolutely true. Buyers set the market and sellers react accordingly.

 

[Teddy Dal]

Well I fully understand the supply and demand realities, but those realities should be performed in an ethical and transparent manner. I don't blame dealers for trying to maximize profits as I am sure most of us do in our own personal and business lives, but that line can blurred into questionable ethics.
On another note, I do feel there is something different about this car, especially the R version and think that it does make sense as an investment. All new and completely different engine philosophy, Ford's resurgent interest in Motorsport , and much more limited than previous special edition or performance mustangs. Who here feels that the R version will have some decent upside down the road, and not 20 years plus down the road?
Don't get me wrong, if my deal works out I will drive the car because I want to enjoy it, but just throwing the question out there.

 

[Chameleon]

You sound mad because what he stated is absolutely true. Buyers set the market and sellers react accordingly.

For someone with sticker as a username, you would think he might have a clue how that works.

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

Right on cue sticker...right on cue.:frusty:

Not even close........................

 

[slc]

Look, the dealers ALL bought into this program when they forked over $1000 to participate. They asked to be part of the program. Even prior to the forking over of the $1000 participation fee, Ford never told them how many units would be produced... there was speculation from a certain few auto magazines who sourced Mustang6G.com as the source, citing that 5000 units/year would happen. So far, no one has been able to pin that down, but a few on here have heard from the higher-ups of the Shelby program that this car would follow the production numbers of the 12/13 B302.

When the dealers got wind of those low volume numbers and they started witnessing the crazy-arse popularity and demand for this car, they started seeing $$$. When I signed my contract to purchase my car, Ford humbly asked that all dealers respect the MSRP. They can't force anyone to do any different.

Then you have the dealers who are not motivated to get educated about the process, nor educate their salesman... a perfect example would be Cruiznaround who dealt with a salesman who didn't even know how to read the order sheet. I also have encountered a dealer who kept sitting on emails from Ford as to what allocations they received.

So you can't blame Ford... this is some of the crap that comes along with low-volume production of any sort.

I completely agree with what you have said about the dealers and this being a low volume car. My point about Ford is by not openly stating the planned production life and volumes they are simply adding fuel to the ADM fire.

 

[Rated R]

Dirty Sanchez, Your arrogance is apparent. You work for the largest Ford dealer in the world. The market that Galpin Ford has the luxury of selling cars in is unlike the majority of markets anywhere else. As such, your experiences cannot compare with the rest of the country where markets are far more realistic. I am an alumni of USC. That area is unlike any other. Enjoy it, you are lucky to be selling in such a dense market to those who have money to burn.

 

[DrumReaper]

I completely agree with what you have said about the dealers and this being a low volume car. My point about Ford is by not openly stating the planned production life and volumes they are simply adding fuel to the ADM fire.

I hear ya... Just glad I'm able to get one.

 

[obgod3]

I'll say this, to all those blaming the dealers, dealers don't set the market. Buyers do. If dealers couldn't sell them at ADM,...... But, that is not the case with this car. I don't see a single person complain about when they get a car/truck for invoice or less than invoice or just a hell of a deal in general, but god forbid you pay the mark up for a highly desirable car. One way the dealer is the greatest and the other way they are the devil, right? The market swings both ways. In this case, you're paying more than sticker.

:frusty: Im a business man and this explanation does not make sense. To say dealers don't set the price on this just not correct. If the dealer made a decision not to take an ADM they would still sell the car at MSRP all day long and not a penny less, they don't have to add an ADM they "choose" to, Ford corporate set the price and the dealer made a choice to get more out of something they didn't "need" to. A dealer doesn't have to sell a single car for less than MSRP, you "choose" to. Your business and competitors set this. Blaming it on the consumer, thats the worst excuse for a business to use and saying that does nothing but discredit and question the honesty of your business. I have not had one dealer ask me what Im willing to pay, they just told me 10K ADM...so who set what? It almost sounds like dealer collusion.

Im not bitter or angry, and I do wish the best for the guys who do get one but blaming it on the consumer, eh, give me a break, your dealer wants the extra cash. I can pay the ADM for this car if I want to but to be honest once I hit the 70K range there are a lot of other cars I would consider over this one for many reasons. The dealers have completely missed the point of this car, value and performance.

 

[Spa2k]

Buyers always set the selling prices, but of course they don't set the asking prices. If buyers who are ready, willing and able to buy were unwilling to pay ADM, there would be no ADM. If buyers stop buying any item, from gasoline to homes, the prices of those items will fall. If the prices don't fall, as in the case of a dealer who says he's not going to negotiate on price, the item isn't really for sale. It's just basic economics.

 

[OH5GT 2 S550]

:frusty: Im a business man and this explanation does not make sense, blaming it on the consumer, its laughable. To say dealers don't set the price on this is naive at best. If the dealer made a decision not to take an ADM they would still sell the car at MSRP all day long and not a penny less, they don't have to add an ADM they "choose" to, Ford corporate set the price and the dealer made a choice to get more out of something they didn't "need" to. A dealer doesn't have to sell a single car for less than MSRP, you "choose" to. Your business and competitors set this. Blaming it on the consumer, thats the worst excuse for a business to use and saying that does nothing but discredit and question the honesty of your business. I have not had one dealer ask me what Im willing to pay, they just told me 10K ADM...so who set what? It almost sounds like dealer collusion.

Im not bitter or angry i just don't care for arrogant ignorance, and I do wish the best for the guys who do get one but blaming it on the consumer, eh, give me a break, your dealer wants the extra cash. I can pay the ADM for this car if I want to but to be honest once I hit the 70K range there are a lot of other cars I would consider over this one for many reasons. The dealers have completely missed the point of this car, value and performance.

Someone's been watching to much Sportscenter lately!

 

[obgod3]

Buyers always set the selling prices, but of course they don't set the asking prices. If buyers who are ready, willing and able to buy were unwilling to pay ADM, there would be no ADM. If buyers stop buying any item, from gasoline to homes, the prices of those items will fall. If the prices don't fall, as in the case of a dealer who says he's not going to negotiate on price, the item isn't really for sale. It's just basic economics.

Well maybe we are at opposite ends of this, and im ok with that. Since my business relies on selling product I know we clearly "set" the market price in our industry. We "choose" to decide what the price will be. All Im saying is this, the dealer in this case makes money if they sell the car for MSRP, they make much more if they sell it for an ADM. So your going to tell me they are selling it with an ADM because consumers will pay for it and they dont care about the extra cash? Maybe they should donate that extra cash to charity...lol....just kidding. They have the "choice" to determine what they sell it for and it makes no difference to the consumer. They would not sell one less at MSRP, the ADM is a gift and in our world these days part of the greed. The dealer isn't doing anyone a favor by selling it for ADM and they could just decide to say "we will sell all GT350's for MSRP" and they choose not to. I just dont see how that "choice" is made by the consumer since the dealer has the control to change it and not loose at all.

There are lots of great cars in high end market without an ADM.

Im making no personal attacks here and this topic will never be won by anyone, Im just voicing my opinion.

 

[obgod3]

Someone's been watching to much Sportscenter lately!

OK you caught me LMAO...yeh..no kidding. But I dont watch ESPN.

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