Mach 1 a higher performer than the 350?

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There was a great comparison graph on the SVTperformance website, the link has been taken down, which is odd. (still evidence it once existed.....)

Most graphs on internet show not small differences below 4500rpm.
Hm... Link doesn't seem to work





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Mach 1 is cheaper and doesn't have the FPC for the guys on the web that are nervous about the FPC engine.
 

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The Mach 1 is not going to be that much cheaper with a starting price just under $53K. I was going to wait for a new Mach 1, I loved my 2004 CO Mach 1, but for a few thousand more I picked up a 2019 GT350.
 

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The Mach 1 is not going to be that much cheaper with a starting price just under $53K. I was going to wait for a new Mach 1, I loved my 2004 CO Mach 1, but for a few thousand more I picked up a 2019 GT350.
I guess that's about 6k less and it doesn't have the FPC for the guys that are nervous about the Voodoo.
 

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Interesting - Thanks!

Looks like the coyote wins (~10%) up to 3500rpms, they are about the same until 4500rpms, then the coyote starts dropping off while the Voodoo keeps going.
 

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The Porsche 911 GT3 isn't the quickest/fastest in the 911 line up but it tends to be the model that is most talked about by driving enthusiasts, I would consider the GT350 to be the same.

Spec sheets do not equal driving experience.
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The Porsche 911 GT3 isn't the quickest/fastest in the 911 line up but it tends to be the model that is most talked about by driving enthusiasts, I would consider the GT350 to be the same.

Spec sheets do not equal driving experience.
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Honestly my 2 cents is that the Mach 1 WILL be VERY popular...
Has the better transmission and the majority of the GT350 goodies, it has an engine that is proven to be reliable and more efficient (port and DI) and responds to mods much better.
Anyone who was going goin to supercharge/turbocharge anyway would be better off with one as it's cheaper and will hold power better.

REAL track guys or folks who just want the visceral driving experience will want a 350 (and likely an R). I see (pre-2019) 350s tanking in value over the Mach1 and 350Rs (and 19+ 350s) holding value well.
 

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Honestly my 2 cents is that the Mach 1 WILL be VERY popular...
Has the better transmission and the majority of the GT350 goodies, it has an engine that is proven to be reliable and more efficient (port and DI) and responds to mods much better.
Anyone who was going goin to supercharge/turbocharge anyway would be better off with one as it's cheaper and will hold power better.

REAL track guys or folks who just want the visceral driving experience will want a 350 (and likely an R). I see (pre-2019) 350s tanking in value over the Mach1 and 350Rs (and 19+ 350s) holding value well.
I would disagree with "it has the majority of the goodies". It doesn't have the engine or the brakes. Those are the two best things in the GT350. Without the special engine and brakes the GT350 would be nothing IMO.

It also doesn't have the carbon fiber wheels, which if you go to the level of the R - those wheels are one of the best parts of the car.

But it does have the track cooling, which will be great.

I'm not interested in the DI engine. I'm too concerned about its reliability. IMO it's unproven. I also don't like the pollution of DI engines. I by far prefer port injection. It might burn more fuel by a small percentage, but it's a lot simpler and we know that the Coyote with port injection is dead reliable.
 

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This is what I remember seeing. Thank you for posting, I wish I had saved it, but I didn't know it would go missing like it did.

I remember thinking the coyote was going to be better for 90% of normal driving around given those numbers under 4000RPM, and things are even up to 4800.
The new "bullitt" version of the coyote would be even worse for the GT350 in comparison.

I wonder if there is a reason this post was taken down.......
 

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The Mach 1 is not going to be that much cheaper with a starting price just under $53K. I was going to wait for a new Mach 1, I loved my 2004 CO Mach 1, but for a few thousand more I picked up a 2019 GT350.
this is right. base mach 1 is $53k. add options and you are right around $60k. you can get a "last of its kind" 2020 gt350 for similar price. that said i do like the fighter jet gray with orange accents Mach 1. looks sweet. but it aint a gt350.
 

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I would disagree with "it has the majority of the goodies". It doesn't have the engine or the brakes. Those are the two best things in the GT350. Without the special engine and brakes the GT350 would be nothing IMO.

It also doesn't have the carbon fiber wheels, which if you go to the level of the R - those wheels are one of the best parts of the car.

But it does have the track cooling, which will be great.

I'm not interested in the DI engine. I'm too concerned about its reliability. IMO it's unproven. I also don't like the pollution of DI engines. I by far prefer port injection. It might burn more fuel by a small percentage, but it's a lot simpler and we know that the Coyote with port injection is dead reliable.
Strictly comparing 350 or Mach1... Nothing will really replace the R

And brakes are an easy upgrade, pads/fluid and you're likely close enough that most drivers wouldn't notice.
Engine of the 350 is seen by many as a liability, not an asset (at least GEN1 anyway) - so I'd say that's moot.
 

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Strictly comparing 350 or Mach1... Nothing will really replace the R

And brakes are an easy upgrade, pads/fluid and you're likely close enough that most drivers wouldn't notice.
Engine of the 350 is seen by many as a liability, not an asset (at least GEN1 anyway) - so I'd say that's moot.
Gen 1?

You obviously don’t know shit about the GT350
 

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