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I've read a little bit but don't quite understand where we can tap into our factory wiring to get a solid low level input for a subwoofer amp. Currently using a LOC and the quality isn't great. I don't really want to have to reprogram the stereo and use an amp for the door speakers if I can get away with it.
Thanks for any help.
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Depends if you have the base 6-speaker (amplified outputs only) or premium 9-speaker (low level and amplified) system. You might something like an LC2i or LC7i to grab all the channels and sum a good low level sub signal, but even then it's not guaranteed since we aren't really sure how heavily EQ'd the factory channel are.

Personally, I'm going to go with OEMradios wiring harness and have him reprogram the factory unit to send out a flat signal.
 
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I have the premium and am currently using the lc2i but it just seems like the signal is too overprocessed. Maybe I've done something wrong in the settings.
 

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Depends if you have the base 6-speaker (amplified outputs only) or premium 9-speaker (low level and amplified) system. You might something like an LC2i or LC7i to grab all the channels and sum a good low level sub signal, but even then it's not guaranteed since we aren't really sure how heavily EQ'd the factory channel are.

Personally, I'm going to go with OEMradios wiring harness and have him reprogram the factory unit to send out a flat signal.
You said it depends on whether a person has the 6 speaker Base system or the Premium 9 speaker system, then you gave a suggestion. Which system was your suggestion for, the Base of the Premium?
 

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His suggestion is on the 9 speaker system. Based on all the people on here who have done all the research, you get the low level signal pre amp. It is still processed and will remain so unless you use a system like [MENTION=20927]OEMRadio[/MENTION] has where it reprograms the factory signal from the stereo to remove the processing.
 

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His suggestion is on the 9 speaker system. Based on all the people on here who have done all the research, you get the low level signal pre amp. It is still processed and will remain so unless you use a system like [MENTION=20927]OEMRadio[/MENTION] has where it reprograms the factory signal from the stereo to remove the processing.
Okay, thanks. Now someone want to tell me how to do it for my Base 6 speaker system. I'm Interested in putting an amp in for a sub and some new front speakers.
 

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If you are taking signal from high-level outputs, converting to low-level, amplifying that with aftermarket amps and new speakers, your system will sound like crap. You need to have a processor to combine, flatten and level the signals out such that you can adjust accordingly. I cannot tell you how many times people came into my shop when I was there with really great components installed well but it sounded like poop because they were basing it all off of a factory, heavily processed signal. Gotta get flat, work from there... always.
 

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I hate it when someone puts something up for sale a doesn't even describe what it does in their introduction post. I can only assume it is connected to the factory wiring and provides low level RCA connections for an amp? Of course I'm sure it's made for the Base system. Course I didn't read past the first page of the thread, so no clue if I'm right or wrong.

If you are taking signal from high-level outputs, converting to low-level, amplifying that with aftermarket amps and new speakers, your system will sound like crap. You need to have a processor to combine, flatten and level the signals out such that you can adjust accordingly. I cannot tell you how many times people came into my shop when I was there with really great components installed well but it sounded like poop because they were basing it all off of a factory, heavily processed signal. Gotta get flat, work from there... always.
Well there goes that plan. So do they sell a processor device that allows me to do his with my Base speaker wires? To
 

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Rockford Fosgate 360.3
JL Audio Cleansweep or FiX products
Audison bit.1 or bit.10d
Helix DSP's

There are others, but those are the options I'd consider. Not cheap, complicated, too. RF360.3 will automatically flatten your input signal for you - easiest choice if you want to also be able to tune the flat signal to your liking (most don't like flat signal). I believe Helix will also automatically flatten. Audison will do so with a car audio shop-only tune device called a Bit Tune or you can do it manually using pink noise and a mic - hard to do. My recommendation - RF360.3 (and don't plug it into power with the battery connected or you may blow the power supply).

Also, I believe OEM Radio on this forum can take even the base unit and tell it to send flat low-level signal, negating the need for a digital processor like I've listed above and you can get a little less expensive equalizer from AudioControl or others.
 

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This is what I'd like to get.
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