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I hope you all are not attempting those speeds on a public road lol
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I unfortunately think Lexus’ 2UR in all their current 5.0 options was developed before our Coyote.I am suspicious of the LC500....5.0 V8 12:1 compression 480hp...and a 10 speed...copy Ford much?
You'd be correct. The basic 2UR engine architecture dates back to 2007 and the original IS-F where it made 416hp while the Mustang was still stuck with the 300hp 3 valve 4.6. Coyote was a few years behind still and even by 2011 was just keeping pace with the older 2UR. By 2015 when the S550 came out Lexus had already upped the compression and had the same 5.0 cranking out 467hp to the Coyote's 435hp.I unfortunately think Lexus’ 2UR in all their current 5.0 options was developed before our Coyote.
I still really enjoy how much more rowdy a Coyote gets on the road. The Lexus’ are awesome retirement cruisers though.
The LC500 is literally the exact same engine as the RCF but with a 10 speed auto instead of an 8 speed auto. They're more alike than you'd imagine.I can't speak for the LC500 since I have not driven one but IMO its likely nowhere close to the RC F model but could also be wrong. I just know my sister in laws 2016 RC F is a wolf in sheep's clothing to say the least. I guess the LC could be as fast with more luxury included but I prefer less luxury and a more visceral driving feeling that the RC gives me.
My dream car for the pure rawness of driving would be a 1966 AC 500 cobra but that is just in my dreams, less is more IMO.
I figured they had to be pretty close if not much the same but was not aware the LC had a 10 speed. I am just glad I don't get to drive the RC much since it gets my need for speed juices flowing way too much and would end up under the jail if I owned it. Definitely glad they did not have these types of cars back in my early days. My 64 tri power goat got me in all the trouble I could handle back then for sure.The LC500 is literally the exact same engine as the RCF but with a 10 speed auto instead of an 8 speed auto. They're more alike than you'd imagine.
The LC is more refined, but the RCF is still pretty tame among its competition which is why it's historically sold so poorly. Same goes for the IS500 that I'm most heavily considering. It's a 9 out of 10 engine for a small 4 door sedan, but it's saddled to a 7 out of 10 transmission and a 6 out of 10 chassis.
This is half right and half wrong the 2UR didn't make into a car until 2015, Coyote has been around since 2011.I unfortunately think Lexus’ 2UR in all their current 5.0 options was developed before our Coyote.
I still really enjoy how much more rowdy a Coyote gets on the road. The Lexus’ are awesome retirement cruisers though.
I personally don’t care about correctness, but the 2UR ISF was around before 2011.This is half right and half wrong the 2UR didn't make into a car until 2015, Coyote has been around since 2011.
You are right the sounds from the coyote are better as well, even from a stock car.
I remember testing an RC-F and an M3 in 2014 before I bought my GS350 F sport.
From Wiki
2UR-GSE[edit]
2UR-GSE
The 2UR-GSE is a 5.0 L; 303.2 cu in (4,969 cc) naturally aspirated V8 engine fitted to the IS F, RC F, GS F, LC 500, and IS 500. It is an all-alloy DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder with Yamaha-designed high-flow cylinder heads, titanium inlet valves, high-lift camshafts and dual-length intake. It has D-4S gasoline port and direct injection, Dual VVT-i with electric VVT-iE inlet camshaft actuation. Bore and stroke is 94 mm Ă— 89.5 mm (3.70 in Ă— 3.52 in). The engine has a redline of 7,300 rpm. The South Africa-based Gazoo Racing SA Toyota Hilux Dakar truck also utilizes the engine.
In the IS F, the engine had an 11.8:1 compression ratio and produced 310 kW (416 bhp; 421 PS) @ 6,600 rpm and 51.3 kgâ‹…m (371 lbâ‹…ft; 503 Nâ‹…m) @ 5,200 rpm of torque.[3] In the RC F and GS F, the compression ratio was increased to 12.3:1 and output 348 kW (467 bhp; 473 PS) @ 7,100 rpm and 53.8 kgâ‹…m (389 lbâ‹…ft; 528 Nâ‹…m) of torque at 4,800-5,600 rpm. The engine received a further increase in power to 351 kW (471 bhp; 477 PS) @ 7,100 rpm and 55.1 kgâ‹…m (399 lbâ‹…ft; 540 Nâ‹…m) of torque at 4,800 rpm in the LC and 354 kW (475 bhp; 481 PS) @ 7,100 rpm and 54.6 kgâ‹…m (395 lbâ‹…ft; 535 Nâ‹…m) of torque at 4,800 rpm in the 2019 RC F.[4][5] Although since 2018, the RC F received a power decrease to 341 kW (457 bhp; 464 PS) in European
This is half right and half wrong the 2UR didn't make into a car until 2015, Coyote has been around since 2011.
You are right the sounds from the coyote are better as well, even from a stock car.
I remember testing an RC-F and an M3 in 2014 before I bought my GS350 F sport.
From Wiki
2UR-GSE[edit]
2UR-GSE
The 2UR-GSE is a 5.0 L; 303.2 cu in (4,969 cc) naturally aspirated V8 engine fitted to the IS F, RC F, GS F, LC 500, and IS 500. It is an all-alloy DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder with Yamaha-designed high-flow cylinder heads, titanium inlet valves, high-lift camshafts and dual-length intake. It has D-4S gasoline port and direct injection, Dual VVT-i with electric VVT-iE inlet camshaft actuation. Bore and stroke is 94 mm Ă— 89.5 mm (3.70 in Ă— 3.52 in). The engine has a redline of 7,300 rpm. The South Africa-based Gazoo Racing SA Toyota Hilux Dakar truck also utilizes the engine.
In the IS F, the engine had an 11.8:1 compression ratio and produced 310 kW (416 bhp; 421 PS) @ 6,600 rpm and 51.3 kgâ‹…m (371 lbâ‹…ft; 503 Nâ‹…m) @ 5,200 rpm of torque.[3] In the RC F and GS F, the compression ratio was increased to 12.3:1 and output 348 kW (467 bhp; 473 PS) @ 7,100 rpm and 53.8 kgâ‹…m (389 lbâ‹…ft; 528 Nâ‹…m) of torque at 4,800-5,600 rpm. The engine received a further increase in power to 351 kW (471 bhp; 477 PS) @ 7,100 rpm and 55.1 kgâ‹…m (399 lbâ‹…ft; 540 Nâ‹…m) of torque at 4,800 rpm in the LC and 354 kW (475 bhp; 481 PS) @ 7,100 rpm and 54.6 kgâ‹…m (395 lbâ‹…ft; 535 Nâ‹…m) of torque at 4,800 rpm in the 2019 RC F.[4][5] Although since 2018, the RC F received a power decrease to 341 kW (457 bhp; 464 PS) in European
That was a 4.6 though wasn't it? By that logic then ford made a 4.6 before then too which is the predecessor to the 5.0 .... Hmmm makes sense huh?The Lexus IS F was a 2007 model and used the 2UR-GSE.
It's literally in your own post.
No. 100% no.That was a 4.6 though wasn't it? By that logic then ford made a 4.6 before then too which is the predecessor to the 5.0 .... Hmmm makes sense huh?
And even if your factually incorrect post had somehow been correct and they had made a 4.6 L version of the 2UR then it would have still been the same architecture in the same way the 5.0 L Coyote is still a Coyote even though they later released a 5.2 L option in the GT350, GT500, and as a crate engine.The 2UR-GSE is a 5.0 L; 303.2 cu in (4,969 cc) naturally aspirated V8 engine fitted to the IS F, RC F, GS F, LC 500, and IS 500.