Let's Talk Mods!

[Sinister15]

Hey all,
Just picked up my third mustang. I've had half a dozen performance vehicles, 07 GT500, 92 notchback, a few turbo subaru's, (an STI that made 500whp) and i've learned that every car has it's pro's and con's.

I love my mustang, i just clicked over 1k this weekend after having the car for a month. Basically, now that the break in's done, i'm looking to mod. I wont be going crazy at first. The car, although 2 years old (model years) is still brand new. I was thinking intake axlebacks and tune just for now.

I've been lurking on here for a little less than a month but i was hoping i could get a small summary from you guys that have been playing/dealing with the coyote platform for some time now. I've heard/read about a few things, cam sprockets, oil pump gear and MGW shifter, but no one says why they do them.

Could someone outline some pro's and con's to the drivetrain without too much debate? When will i need the cam/oil gears? I know the MT82 is junk from what i've seen.

Basically, just looking for a beginners guide to the coyote. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks guys

Oh, and don't tell me to search. I haven't found much. Instead, link me, i'm more than happy to explore whatever links you guys think i should start with.

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[Trackaholic]

I think the MT82 issues are overblown. They may not be the most robust, but the ones Ive driven actually felt quite good, and most reviews rate them quite high.

Still, the MGW shifter is very high quality, so if you are not thrilled with the stock feel you can't go wrong with that. The cam and oil pump gears are brittle and prone to failure as shock loads and torsional vibration increase. I think if all you are doing is an intake and tune, you probably don't need to mess with them. If you do forced induction or something like the gt350 manifold where you are drastically increasing redline, then you may want to take a look at replacing them.

I personally would leave the engine alone and do exhaust for sound and suspension for handling. Not sure what the favored shocks are, but maybe either the ford performance setup or whatever kkrakon did since his car seemed to be buttoned down based on that video review.

-T

 

[StoplightWarrior]

figure out what your ultimate goal will be, and then create a plan to get there.

For example, I thought I'd be content with bolt ons, so I ordered the intake/tuner combo - it didnt make enough power for my tastes. So, now I'm saving for a blower, and gonna have to sell the intake/tuner at a loss.

Ensure that you're not wasting money on mods that will be changed later in favor of other mods.

 

[Bill Black]

I think the MT82 issues are overblown. They may not be the most robust, but the ones Ive driven actually felt quite good, and most reviews rate them quite high.

Still, the MGW shifter is very high quality, so if you are not thrilled with the stock feel you can't go wrong with that. The cam and oil pump gears are brittle and prone to failure as shock loads and torsional vibration increase. I think if all you are doing is an intake and tune, you probably don't need to mess with them. If you do forced induction or something like the gt350 manifold where you are drastically increasing redline, then you may want to take a look at replacing them.

I personally would leave the engine alone and do exhaust for sound and suspension for handling. Not sure what the favored shocks are, but maybe either the ford performance setup or whatever kkrakon did since his car seemed to be buttoned down based on that video review.

-T

congrats! u gotta post a picture to make it official.

But despite the drivetrain thud noise.... I think the drivetrain its actually pretty solid.... I don't know what your driving style is like or what your intensions with the car are but the steeda stop the hop kit with some lowering springs and is good place to start imho.

Good luck, and lets see that ride!

 

[2015 Silver GT]

Start with the exhaust. I have the Corsa Extreme catback if you want to hear it in person.

 

[Sinister]

You don't need to do the OPG with a basic bolt on car. FYI Shadow Black is a '16 model year color.

 

[skeeter]

Go with full Steeda or BMR suspension and stop the deflection.

 

[D.Brown]

I second a Corsa exhaust, seeing as how I've been through five different exhausts. Don't waste your money on axle backs. I've also installed the Steeda Tri-Ax Short Shifter to try and reduce the notchiness and sloppy shifts of the stock shifter. I've heard numerous times that the MGW is just as good if not better at doing the same.

Aside from that, a nice set of shocks and struts with some Steeda Ultralites really improves the ride here in the Northeast. I wasn't impressed with the JLT intake and ended up getting rid of it. I would strongly suggest a tune though, that was well worth it.

 

[PJR202]

you might like ditching the resonator, which would require buying a standalone X or H pipe, or you would get one of those as part of a full catback system.

 

[Chad11491]

i'd also look at taking out weight from the car. every lb helps, and this car is relatively easy to shed weight on. you can easily lose over 100lb from lightweight wheels, rotors, and a catback. A catback is nearly 30lb by itself, and you can save almost 40lb with lightweight wheels (33lb F 34lb R performance pack wheels) and a little over 25lb with rotors. Rotating mass reductions will add up to a noticeable difference. I'd take that route, and button down the suspension, and then do mild power boltons. I think that would make a really balanced car.

 

[6G]

i'd also look at taking out weight from the car. every lb helps, and this car is relatively easy to shed weight on. you can easily lose over 100lb from lightweight wheels, rotors, and a catback. A catback is nearly 30lb by itself, and you can save almost 40lb with lightweight wheels (33lb F 34lb R performance pack wheels) and a little over 25lb with rotors. Rotating mass reductions will add up to a noticeable difference. I'd take that route, and button down the suspension, and then do mild power boltons. I think that would make a really balanced car.

THIS.

 

[Sinister15]

Thanks for your input everyone. Most of you seem to say go the exhaust root which was as I mentioned one of my top choices. Suspension will most definitely play a roll sometime soon as well. Just looking to liven up the car a bit while putting my own spin on it is all. I may get crazy in the future as i'm known to do that. At that point, what are engine internals and the transmission good for, power wise?

 

[lwnslw]

I have a 2016 PP GT that I purchased in February, all my MODS are in my sig...

I am very pleased so far. My buddy also has a 2016 PP GT he bought 2 weeks prior to me and when he drove mine he was wide eyed on the difference simple bolt ons made.

 

[SD_GT]

With the power levels you're used to, I'd skip the BS and get down to the nitty gritty.
- Cat-Back (partial to my Corsa Xtreme)
- Suspension (you'll love yourself for this)
- Whipple/Pro-Charger/Hellion depending on how wild you want to get.
- OPG
- Misc. little mods (aesthetics, short shifter, etc)

Looking back at the money I spent on bolt-ons, I should've just put it all towards boost. More bang for buck.

 

[BmacIL]

1. Exhaust
2. Suspension (but getting something to control the rear subframe first: BMR cradle lockout or Steeda Subfame Supports + Subframe braces)
3. Shifter stuff - I actually just installed the energy suspension bushing and am amazed how much better it is over stock. No doubt the MGW will be amazing, but the improvement for $14 is pretty spectacular value.
4. Whatever else strikes you

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