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[ChitownStang]

I wouldn't mind having a 22up BMW M240 xdrive. My even trade my mustang for one if yall know anyone!

That M240 is seriously ugly and confused.. at least go M2 with the better performance to go along with the ugly..

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[80FoxCoupe]

That M240 is seriously ugly and confused.. at least go M2 with the better performance to go along with the ugly..

Appearance is subjective. Rather have the mustang over M2 for what I do. I'm interested in the awd.

 

[Hack]

The Lexus is kind of cool. Too bad they don't have a manual transmission option.

To be honest, I prefer a rowdier and cheaper vehicle like the Mustang anyway.

 

[The Demon]

That M240 is seriously ugly and confused.. at least go M2 with the better performance to go along with the ugly..

I agree with the 22up ugly as BMW is ruining all of their cars with shitty looks. My 2020 has much better lines. Plus with the added goodies will take an M2 with the top down.

 

[mavisky]

Just picked one up yesterday and love it. Not replacing the GT350, but a great daily driver to compliment it.

 

[S550HPP]

Was never a fan of the new, now very old, Lexus design language except the face on the biggest SUVs.

It's hard to choose now everything under $75K looks generic inside with all the big screens.

If I was in the market for a sedan I'd go for Alfa Quadrifoglio.

 

[mavisky]

Was never a fan of the new, now very old, Lexus design language except the face on the biggest SUVs.

It's hard to choose now everything under $75K looks generic inside with all the big screens.

If I was in the market for a sedan I'd go for Alfa Quadrifoglio.

The quads are possibly the most beautiful sedan ever made while simultaneously being one of the least reliable sedans ever made. So while you're making payments on your Giulia Quad you'll be driving the 4 cylinder loaner half the time while its stuck in the dealer service department.


Also couldn't disagree with you less on the Predator grille on the new Lexuses. The LC, RC, and IS are the only cars it's acceptable on as they're the only aggressive cars. The giant version on the SUV's or the new LS are just too much and make me wonder why my geriatric luxury vehicle is so angry at me.

 

[Hack]

I'm not a Lexus guy. They seem like the anti-Mustang to me. I like the unrefined feel and low(er) price of a Ford vs. a more premium product. Gives me more money left over for tires/track days. Not that the new Mustangs seem like a good deal to me either - hence why I'm in a base PP1 2017 GT.

 

[K4fxd]

I like the unrefined feel and low(er) price of a Ford vs. a more premium product.

I get it, but with my aching joints and sore back, along with the grand kids being bigger, 4 doors and a smooth ride look better and better each day.

 

[S550HPP]

In fact all Stelantis brands are the top ranked.

My cash paid Levante has been flawless since new, as have any in service 2020+ Maserati. Ferrari and Alfa known to me.

Local dealer has round $50M eye candy on the floor at anytime and plenty high spec loaners....not a painful experience by any measure. Great people too.

Recently the Grecale and green quad sedan caught my eye....

 

[mavisky]

In fact all Stelantis brands are the top ranked.

My cash paid Levante has been flawless since new, as have any in service 2020+ Maserati. Ferrari and Alfa known to me.

Local dealer has round $50M eye candy on the floor at anytime and plenty high spec loaners....not a painful experience by any measure. Great people too.

Recently the Grecale and green quad sedan caught my eye....

Perhaps they've gotten better as of recent, but the history of Quads being unreliable is documented.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a23145269/alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-reliability-update/

Even the Giulia owners acknowledge the unreliablity of them and warn against purchasing one without an extended warranty.

Expect 2-3 check engine lights per year unless it was thoroughly gone over already.... You will negotiate oil pump issues, turbo wastegate issues, brittle coolant lines, leaking orings, radiator leaks, relay issues, and/or wiring issues.

https://www.giuliaforums.com/threads/2017-gulia-reliability-after-80k-miles-concern.62829/

 

[S550HPP]

For exceptional ride comfort and ease of access I recommend Bronco Sport.

Had a rental and was blown away by the wafting ride over worst roads. At this price point it's an amazing commuter that looks good IMO.

Otherwise go for best active suspension you can afford.

 

[S550HPP]

Pretty sure all the quad issues are resolved since 2017 MY. Any excuse to go to dealer would be welcome though.

Thankfully my Ford dealer is a brand new masterpiece with some eye candy as well, considering the 20+ visits there in last 2 years haha....I actually like going there.

 

[LOL WUT]

In fact all Stelantis brands are the top ranked.

My cash paid Levante has been flawless since new, as have any in service 2020+ Maserati. Ferrari and Alfa known to me.

Local dealer has round $50M eye candy on the floor at anytime and plenty high spec loaners....not a painful experience by any measure. Great people too.

Recently the Grecale and green quad sedan caught my eye....

Paying cash was a vital piece of information in this post. Thank you for including the humble brag.

 

[mavisky]

Ouch. 102K+ sticker but after a few years worth less than 40k. That sucks.

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