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Is the 2015-2017 GT Performance Pack (PP1) the same parts for 2018-2023 GT Performance Pack (PP1)?

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The reason I ask I that I was looking at a 2019 window sticker for a PP1 and it seemed like it has less detail than the earlier PP1. Thanks if you know answer.
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From what I understand the 2015-2017 PP1 suspension and relating parts are used on the 2018+ base GT models. The 2018+ PP1 has newer parts.
 

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caliper and rotors are same. Torsen is same. Not sure about radiator but probably. The shock/struts of PP1 are garbage regardless of year.
 

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Also PP strut tower and cowl bracing are the same 15-23. Also the lateral links and control arms in the front are PP specific 15-23. I think base GT suspension from 15-17 is same as base non-magneride GT suspension. Same with PP from 15-17 and non-magneride PP1 18-23, I've never seen data that showed they were different.
 

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Also PP strut tower and cowl bracing are the same 15-23. Also the lateral links and control arms in the front are PP specific 15-23. I think base GT suspension from 15-17 is same as base non-magneride GT suspension. Same with PP from 15-17 and non-magneride PP1 18-23, I've never seen data that showed they were different.
The PP GT suspension 2015-2017 is the same as the base GT 2018+. Minus the control arms and brakes.
 

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The PP GT suspension 2015-2017 is the same as the base GT 2018+. Minus the control arms and brakes.
Can you site a source of this information?
 

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Can you site a source of this information?
Part numbers are the same. I confirmed it a while ago when I called my local dealership asking for part numbers. Dealer had to do a lot of digging because there are so many variants of the same strut/shocks. But they are the same

Edit: Be careful not to confuse them with the handing pack and the performance pack... they are different.
 

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Part numbers are the same. I confirmed it a while ago when I called my local dealership asking for part numbers. Dealer had to do a lot of digging because there are so many variants of the same strut/shocks. But they are the same

Edit: Be careful not to confuse them with the handing pack and the performance pack... they are different.
Looking at the parts list on parts.ford.com, I see nothing indicating this is the case.

What they appear to have done was release many different strut/shock combinations for non-magneride configurations. Referring to a non-PP vehicle: Convertible, 20" wheels, and 19"/18" wheels all use different shock/strut combinations from 2018 and newer while 2015-2017 they all used one set that was the same.

Bracing, springs and sway bars appear unchanged.
 

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Looking at the parts list on parts.ford.com, I see nothing indicating this is the case.

What they appear to have done was release many different strut/shock combinations for non-magneride configurations. Referring to a non-PP vehicle: Convertible, 20" wheels, and 19"/18" wheels all use different shock/strut combinations from 2018 and newer while 2015-2017 they all used one set that was the same.

Bracing, springs and sway bars appear unchanged.
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Equipped on the mustang gt performance pack 2015-2017 and the 2018+ Base GT
 

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Equipped on the mustang gt performance pack 2015-2017 and the 2018+ Base GT
White bear lake:

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Tasca:

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Additional vendors also list this as a convertible only shock for 2018+.

Maybe @LevittownFordParts can answer the OP's question and ours if he has time?
 

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White bear lake:

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Tasca:

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Additional vendors also list this as a convertible only shock for 2018+.

Maybe @LevittownFordParts can answer the OP's question and ours if he has time?
I will call them. Any other good resource to inquire with?
 

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I will call them. Any other good resource to inquire with?
Benny is the guy who monitors that account and does respond to DMs a few times a day. He's helped me out with parts very recently. I'm still locking down the rest of my setup before I pull the trigger, but I will be spending money at Levittown because of their support.
 

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I can of doubt it because the pp1 package has many parts designed to work together, from sway bars to springs to bracing, etc as a package
Will make no sense to have
Struts and springs designed with that package in mind, to be used with a car with different sway bars, chassis torsional rigidity and a bunch of other stuff
As shown by by the huge number of different struts/springs, Ford go to great length to tailor the suspension to each vehicle specifications
 

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Additional vendors also list this as a convertible only shock for 2018+.
either way, what does it matter? It's all sh*t. The only good non-MR dampers in the entire Ford parts chain is the Ford Performance "racing" kit ones.
 
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either way, what does it matter? It's all sh*t. The only good non-MR dampers in the entire Ford parts chain is the Ford Performance "racing" kit ones.
FWIW - what matters to me is understanding from where are you starting - to do mods like Steeda offers. I understand what is on my 2016. It's not clear to me if the same parts are on a 2019, even though both are PP1 cars. The window sticker on the '19 has less detail than the '16. I will call Levittown and see if they or perhaps Ford Performance can clarify. Gracias mi amigos!
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