Interested in Tuning

[762Cat]

Me too, so stick around if you want

My man just so you know. Drama would be having nothing intelligent or relevant to say and not engaging in any conversation. It is snarky one liners which you have now sucked us into. But like arguing with a child it just makes everybody involved look dumb and well dramatic. Gotta love the interwebs.

LAST WORD!!! Now I'm engaging in drama.

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[thill444]

How many stories have I read and seen when peoples warranties were voided because they put a tune on the voodoo? How much of a performance increase will you realize by doing this? This is one engine that I would not tune. If you are willing to own the problem, then go for it. If you are not and can look at a significant rebuild/replacement, then think twice.

This. All day this.. Either go big (all in on a tune, reinforced motor, E85, etc, etc) or just don't do it at all. It's really not worth a small HP bump to void your powertrain warranty on an engine that has had so many issues noted. I feel like if I really wanted more power it might be best just to go straight to a GT500.

 

[Hack]

I think everyone has different opinions about this topic. I wanted a warranty on my Voodoo because I used that thing HARD. I went to the road course and drove it like I stole it. I didn't want to pay for a replacement engine. I thought the Voodoo was great on the road course. I can understand those that only drive around in traffic on public roads might feel that the Voodoo needs a tune, because you can really only use its maximum power in first gear and a little of second on public roads. And yes, of course more power is always welcome. I just didn't feel it was needed.

I felt that the Voodoo was very strong on the road course. Lap after lap, very few other cars seemed to be able to keep up. If they had more power after many laps, it was subtle. I saw a Hellcat on track - that was the one and only engine that I noticed had significantly more power than the Voodoo even after a few laps, but I passed him in the corners and he wasn't able to stay close enough to be close on the next long straight.

 

[762Cat]

This. All day this.. Either go big (all in on a tune, reinforced motor, E85, etc, etc) or just don't do it at all. It's really not worth a small HP bump to void your powertrain warranty on an engine that has had so many issues noted. I feel like if I really wanted more power it might be best just to go straight to a GT500.

I believe the 2019 and up are sufficiently reinforced as is. 530whp on E85 while maintaining the handling characteristics of the car is big and worth it to me. One day I'll likely go full monty and twin turbo it. That has always been the plan. But I want to push the limit of the car N/A first. If I had an older GT350 or oil consumption issues I'd be more hesitant for sure.

The buy a GT500 argument for more power is a dangerous one. Buying what in reality right now is 100k car, taking a loss on a car I bought for under 60k to potentially save myself 23K on a catastrophic failure doesn't make logical sense to me. Plus I'd lose the manual and the lighter weight better looking (to me) car. I'd rather take that same money and twin turbo with a Motec. Having a truly unique vehicle that very few will have is more appealing to me personally. I've thought about a GT500 and I still may next year but I'd not trade the 350 for one. Especially after seeing some 500s in person. If it were readily available at MSRP it may change things a bit. But I'd still prefer something like the FATHOUSE 1000R. A manual big HP car that can actually put that power to the road. That Motec system is sweet sweet sweet. Expensive as hell but you could buy a 350 and the 1000R package and still be under current 500 pricing in many cases. Certainly if you go 800R. Id be right at 93k with the 800R total invested.

 

[762Cat]

I think everyone has different opinions about this topic. I wanted a warranty on my Voodoo because I used that thing HARD. I went to the road course and drove it like I stole it. I didn't want to pay for a replacement engine. I thought the Voodoo was great on the road course. I can understand those that only drive around in traffic on public roads might feel that the Voodoo needs a tune, because you can really only use its maximum power in first gear and a little of second on public roads. And yes, of course more power is always welcome. I just didn't feel it was needed.

I felt that the Voodoo was very strong on the road course. Lap after lap, very few other cars seemed to be able to keep up. If they had more power after many laps, it was subtle. I saw a Hellcat on track - that was the one and only engine that I noticed had significantly more power than the Voodoo even after a few laps, but I passed him in the corners and he wasn't able to stay close enough to be close on the next long straight.

Hellcats on a road course are a hell of a lot of fun! Pun intended. You are right about that motor. They did a marvelous job on it. I've done 5 sessions of the VIR full course in one day with it and it just keeps on pulling and pulling. No loss of power lap after glorious lap.

 

[762Cat]

Well HO-LEEEEE SHIT BOYS. Got the headers on today flashed the FLEX tune and logged the 93 stuff. E85 tomorrow hopefully. I must say I was completely blown away by how much power and torque she picked up. I honestly was not expecting that much. It's night and day different. Took my buddy for a ride who is doing his car right now in parallel and he couldn't believe it either. Corbin at Johnson tuning is an evil genius.

Car still sounds amazing, it also has the LTH resonator delete. Its loud but not crazy loud. Some might think so depending on your taste. Definitely MUCH louder outside the car than inside. Catless would be insane loud. In quiet mode it still quiet as a church mouse so neighbor friendly. I still cannot believe the difference. Coming from the Hellcat community I'm very impressed. When I first tuned and modified the Cat it was faster but not as noticeable as this. To be fair Hellcats are very torquey and fast from the get go so it's harder to discern in my opinion. The first time I tuned it I picked up about 120whp. This in theory on 93 picked up 55whp and lots of low end torque. A Johnson tuned stock GT350 picked up 50ft lbs at 2500 rpm. This should be more with the headers and intake. I'd have to review the Fathouse 600R car this is modeled off to see how much it should have gained. But wow...... Maybe one day I'll dyno it for giggles.

Very very impressed also really like the HP Tuners set up coming from a Diablo Trinity. Could not be happier. Looking forward to getting the E85 done and taking her for a long RIP this weekend.

 

[762Cat]

Here are some picks of the headers during install. The Stainless works are beautiful pieces. Aslo pretty cool how modular they are. You can see the high flow cats there clamped up. I have the catless pipe as well. A swap would be about 5 mins. Kinda cool.

 

[usaf_branham]

Nice. When the warranty on my car is up and it’s paid off, I will most likely throw some LT’s and a full exhaust on it (among other things, lol).

Btw: those cats aren’t coming off easily after you drive it a while. I put stainless works headers on my old coyote and it took me hours of crawling under the car, wrestling and beating on shit to get all the slip fits to disconnect. If you intend on swapping test pipes in and out, I would highly suggest having v-bands welded on.

 

[762Cat]

Nice. When the warranty on my car is up and it’s paid off, I will most likely throw some LT’s and a full exhaust on it (among other things, lol).

Btw: those cats aren’t coming off easily after you drive it a while. I put stainless works headers on my old coyote and it took me hours of crawling under the car, wrestling and beating on shit to get all the slip fits to disconnect. If you intend on swapping test pipes in and out, I would highly suggest having v-bands welded on.

Good point. I'm staying catted though on this car. I just thought it was a nice option. Like if you went catless and realized you done "F"d up you could easily swap. I only have both because Team Beefcake had a catless one in stock. Every one else gone and most drop ship. No availability till late May. I got it on sale and was able to get the cats drop shipped from stainless works. With the sale total cost was still under what I would have paid. Win win.

 

[sublime1996525]

Well HO-LEEEEE SHIT BOYS. Got the headers on today flashed the FLEX tune and logged the 93 stuff. E85 tomorrow hopefully. I must say I was completely blown away by how much power and torque she picked up. I honestly was not expecting that much. It's night and day different. Took my buddy for a ride who is doing his car right now in parallel and he couldn't believe it either. Corbin at Johnson tuning is an evil genius.

Car still sounds amazing, it also has the LTH resonator delete. Its loud but not crazy loud. Some might think so depending on your taste. Definitely MUCH louder outside the car than inside. Catless would be insane loud. In quiet mode it still quiet as a church mouse so neighbor friendly. I still cannot believe the difference. Coming from the Hellcat community I'm very impressed. When I first tuned and modified the Cat it was faster but not as noticeable as this. To be fair Hellcats are very torquey and fast from the get go so it's harder to discern in my opinion. The first time I tuned it I picked up about 120whp. This in theory on 93 picked up 55whp and lots of low end torque. A Johnson tuned stock GT350 picked up 50ft lbs at 2500 rpm. This should be more with the headers and intake. I'd have to review the Fathouse 600R car this is modeled off to see how much it should have gained. But wow...... Maybe one day I'll dyno it for giggles.

Very very impressed also really like the HP Tuners set up coming from a Diablo Trinity. Could not be happier. Looking forward to getting the E85 done and taking her for a long RIP this weekend.

120rwhp with just a tune??? Damn

 

[762Cat]

120rwhp with just a tune??? Damn

NOOOOO !!!! LOL. That was with a smaller pulley, injectors and a tune. I just meant the first time I modded the car. It made 770whp on that set up. Now it makes 850whp.

 

[lonegunman]

I like reading about all the mods guys are doing, but I'm not planning on much of anything. I bought a 2019 because the 2nd gen "improvements" sounded nice and my brother warned me months ago that 2020 was probably the last year for this car. I missed buying a Boss 302 and decided to get in gear this time around. So it is an Airaid air filter, oil separators, 93 octane and a set of Hoosiers on different rims for my eventual track day adventure. I'll muddle through on 526 horsepower.

Sitting down on the next block is a dead heavily modded 2018 F-350 diesel next to a dead Subie BRZ. Both had their guts exploded by the tuner guys who live there and need new engines, both were new enough to have warranties. Someday they'll save up the money to buy new engines. I support their right to do whatever they want with their vehicles, 100%. Except the two times they skidded into the trees on my property, then no so much.

 

[sublime1996525]

NOOOOO !!!! LOL. That was with a smaller pulley, injectors and a tune. I just meant the first time I modded the car. It made 770whp on that set up. Now it makes 850whp.

Hahaha. Okay, that makes more sense.

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