How to disable the Active Noise Control

[MakStang]

The only way to completely disable the ANC is through FORScan. Go to post #61 of this thread for a complete solution to your problem

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[StealthStang]

The only way to completely disable the ANC is through FORScan. Go to post #61 of this thread for a complete solution to your problem

What would i need to do though ? I read about disabling the ANC but do i also need to convert to low level inputs like mentioned in the Forscan thread ?

If the the settings get reset by the dealership would that send garbage to my amps again, possibly causing clipping and maybe damaging things.

 

[MakStang]

If you want to understand the basics, you can read the first page in the FORScan forum, where everything is described in detail, step by step:

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61773

You can then buy an adapter, such the bluetooth adapter shown on the first page of that thread, or the USB one that I mention in my post (#61 in this thread):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271935399987

You will have to change ACN module 727-01-01, as described in this post:

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1668885&postcount=1196

If you do the above, you should not have to worry about anything else.

Hope this helps. Let me know how it works out for you.

 

[StealthStang]

If you want to understand the basics, you can read the first page in the FORScan forum, where everything is described in detail, step by step:

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61773

You can then buy an adapter, such the bluetooth adapter shown on the first page of that thread, or the USB one that I mention in my post (#61 in this thread):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271935399987

You will have to change ACN module 727-01-01, as described in this post:

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1668885&postcount=1196

If you do the above, you should not have to worry about anything else.

Hope this helps. Let me know how it works out for you.

Thanks, seems like a lot of work, plus the tool isnt available in my country so its going to take time and a lot of money to import one.

At least theres some hope, as long as i don't brick the car's ecm.

 

[kiszl]

Would anyone on this thread know of a good dealer to get this installed in the South Florida area? Ive done some research but would love recommendations.

 

[Ebm]

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Would anyone on this thread know of a good dealer to get this installed in the South Florida area? Ive done some research but would love recommendations.

What? No dealership would help you do this since it would be a warranty issue.

You might try 2 things:

1) Check local sections to see if anyone has Forscan nearby

2) Get Ford Performance tune. It deletes the fake sound I believe.

 

[kiszl]

My b, totally realized I posted this question in the wrong thread lol. Total Noob move

 

[acull2000]

[MENTION=18708]p0werslave[/MENTION] - I have tried this on a stock UK Ecoboost and this doesn't work for me. Using Accessport to determine if engine sound enhancement (ESE) is gone, I get the following results:

1) pulling fuse 27 kills the factory amp, no stereo (but also no ANC or ESE)

2) disconnecting the rear mic disables ANC but not ESE

3) using forscan to change 727-01-01 xxxx-x*xx-xx only disables ANC (in fact the F150 forum has this bit coded as "Front Tweeters (FT) & Chime Strategy (CS) & ANC & USB").
ESE is still there, as tested with Accessport

4) using forscan to change 727-01-01 x*xx-xxxx-xx tricks the car into thinking it is non-shaker, ie sending speaker level outputs to the amp (disabling the amp, ANC and ESE). This degrades audio quality

5) de-pinning the ANC and ESE wires to the amp connector diasbles ANC and ESE. This is the only way I've found to do it whilst maintaining normal stereo quality.​

I'm waiting for someone to figure out how to disable ESE but retain ANC :gossip:

Guys, to be clear - FORScan disables both the ANC and the fake sound symposer. I've tried it with the COBB Accessport, where previously when I changed Map slots (between 1 to 5) it used to make the fake noise, and now it doesn't.

You would be the first to make this claim, as I have heard others using the Cobb tuner still had the fake noise after changing the value in FORScan. What exactly did you change, just the "A" to "8"?

Yup that's right - only that one change.

 

[MakStang]

This thread addresses the issue of disabling the Active Noise Cancellation for those who have loud exhausts and the ANC creates resonance (hence increased drone) inside the cabin, as well as those who have issues with the sub-woofer because of the ANC. I don't know if there is any way to disable the Engine Sound Enhancement while retaining the ANC active.

Out of curiosity, why do you need that?

 

[acull2000]

Understood, but there is some confusion in this post that unplugging the mic or using Forscan will also disable ESE, which it doesn't (unless you bypass the amp):

So it probably does both.

Another thing that is not quite true is:

The only way to completely disable the ANC is through FORScan

Bear in mind that you can also do it by removing fuse 27 (not recommended) or by de-pinning the correct wires from the plug connector to the amplifier.

Anyway, me and others with exhaust/tune are looking for a way to keep ANC (which doesn't cause us issues and helps in-call quality) but to delete ESE (which adds an engine speed based tone to the cabin). Every year there are false claims how to disable ESE and I've yet to see one that works whilst keeping ANC!

 

[MakStang]

No, it says the exact opposite. FORScan disables the ANC.

Good to know. So it probably does both. I cannot check though, as I am Adam tuned and I do not have the 5 slots of the COBB OTS maps. Thanks for the update.

Made the change again today, fake sounds are definitely still there. Anyone else have a Cobb tuner that could test this as well when switching maps? Even the F-150 FORScan document shows this change only disables ANC, not the symposer.

This thread is pretty clear, FORScan disables the ANC (see the first quote above). You isolated only part of my reply (see the second quote above), where I simply reply to [MENTION=18708]p0werslave[/MENTION]'s post by saying that I cannot verify his finding. Later, [MENTION=26415]solodogg[/MENTION] confirms that the fake sounds are still there after disabling the ANC through FORSCan (see the third quote).

Also FORSCan IS the only way to deactivate the ANC without affecting anything else. Removing fuse 27 affects some other things (I don't remember what exactly, but it has to do with the radio I think). Finally there is not just one, but 2 plug connectors that you must unplug if you want to fully deactivate the ANC using an alternative method: the first one is under the rear headliner and the other one is inside the map light. However if you disconnect the latter you will affect other functionalities as well, such as voice control and handsfree IIRC.

So, to summarize the above so that others are not confused: FORSCan is the way to fully deactivate the ANC without affecting anything else. Also, aaccording to [MENTION=26415]solodogg[/MENTION] (and probably others as well) it doesn't seem to deactivate the fake engine sounds.

I really don't know of any way to disable the fake engine sounds while keeping the ANC activated.

 

[acull2000]

I'm trying to help mis-information here as this topic seems to go in circles.

Also FORSCan IS the only way to deactivate the ANC without affecting anything else.

I am trying to tell you that there is another way, that some users (like anyone without Forscan, or the confidence to use it) might like to investigate. You can de-pin the ANC and ESE wires between the ACM module and DSP module. These can be located on the black connector to the ACM in the left hand footwell. This will retain the stock amp and kill ANC (and ESE) completely. If you do it carefully it is completely reversible as you can just re-pin the connector later. If you really want to get fancy you could create your own harness with the 6 relevant pins missing, but I think this is overkill

This should be the preferred route for anyone else looking to disable ESE, basically all Ecoboost and GT350 owners.


Beware that when using the forscan method, you can also accidentally disable front tweeters/ USB if you choose the wrong coding for that bit - I recommend people check their coding.

 

[StealthStang]

I'm trying to help mis-information here as this topic seems to go in circles.



I am trying to tell you that there is another way, that some users (like anyone without Forscan, or the confidence to use it) might like to investigate. You can de-pin the ANC and ESE wires between the ACM module and DSP module. These can be located on the black connector to the ACM in the left hand footwell. This will retain the stock amp and kill ANC (and ESE) completely. If you do it carefully it is completely reversible as you can just re-pin the connector later. If you really want to get fancy you could create your own harness with the 6 relevant pins missing, but I think this is overkill

This should be the preferred route for anyone else looking to disable ESE, basically all Ecoboost and GT350 owners.


Beware that when using the forscan method, you can also accidentally disable front tweeters/ USB if you choose the wrong coding for that bit - I recommend people check their coding.

Please link me to the de-pin diagram. I need it for my Eurospec Eco. Im having such huge issues with it.
Thanks!

 

[acull2000]

This post shows the diagram
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1764799&postcount=325

If you remove all ANC pins from DSP (in left hand footwell) from black connector, you will remove all synthesised sound (ESE And ANC)

 

[zrx4me]

Hell,I wish I had more synth sound.i like it.

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