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It is my opinion that the CVs overheated from repeated accelleration of a 4000# car from maneuvering speeds on the inside course to maximum speeds as seen on the outside course all the way up to repeated hits on the speed limiter
And I 100% respect your opinion Sir, personally I think that banking did them in. Any problems on any other tracks? I've read nothing about it lately.
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Newton's Second Law had to do with force acting upon an object
Which apply to forces coming from all directions. More or less Sir.
 

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The end game is what the car was engineered to accomplish. The 500 is a track car. Ford engineers built and designed the car with that goal in mind. They did not design the car to be a 200+ MPH extended high speed vehicle. They correctly came up with a number based upon the capabilities of the car and its purpose. 180 MPH is about all you want to do before it is time to get on the brakes at the one US track that I can think of screaming into turn 1. If there was no speed limiter, you wouldn't get to go much faster. I'm not kidding..... hit the 181 speed limiter, and its time to get on the brakes going into turn 1.

Anything more is impractical and it would require Ford to engineer a whole lot more into the car which would cost more money. Another point about the engineering..... more HP= a heavier car. More HP= bigger brakes. Bigger brakes= more weight. More weight= what this whole issue is about.
 

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And I 100% respect your opinion Sir, personally I think that banking did them in. Any problems on any other tracks? I've read nothing about it lately.
You completely miss the point. Name one track where you can continuously hit the speed limiter.......
 

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I've got a big day tomorrow. You all talk amounst yourselves.......
 

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A lot of cars have a speed limiter now and this limit is based on 2 different reasons:
Either, like the Shelby, the manufacturer has decided, based on testing, that this limit is the maximum speed at which the most “fragile “ part or system, can safely operate or, like in Europe, there is a gentleman agreement between manufacturers to limit their cars speed to 250 km/hour or 155 miles/hour
When the 1999 Haybusa came to market with a top speed of almost 200 mph, governments in Europe started to worry about it and the following year Japanese manufacturers reached a gentleman’s agreement to limit their bike speed to 300 kmh or 187 mph
That was the birth of the speed limiter for bikes
 

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No. By slower, I meant a reduced top speed. I figure that the big wing on the CFTP will increase drag on the car, making it harder to go faster in a straight line at high speeds.

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I would think not since it is electronically limited to approximately 180 mph. That tells me the cars are capable of faster speeds so drag is not stopping the car from going 180, the computer is. I think they all can reach 180. The unlimited top speed could be different due to aero and drag but not the limited speed of 180.

I would like to see someone turn off the limiter and see how fast the car can go.
 
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I would think not since it is electronically limited to approximately 180 mph. That tells me the cars are capable of faster speeds so drag is not stopping the car from going 180, the computer is. I think they all can reach 180. The unlimited top speed could be different due to aero and drag but not the limited speed of 180.

I would like to see someone turn off the limiter and see how fast the car can go.
Power required to push a car through air is related to the cube of velocity. Based on a Camaro ZL1 with an official top speed of 198 mph (that's the two-way average) and 650 hp, assuming the same drag, a base GT500 with 760 hp theoretically could go about 208.5 mph (also two-way average). However, the GT500 is slightly taller and wider than a ZL1 and similarly shaped with similar aero treatment (i.e. front splitters, large grille openings, ventilated hoods, rear wings, same windshield rake, etc.), so the GT500 likely has slightly more drag, reducing the top speed. I'd estimate that the top speed of a GT500 (base) would be about 201-202 mph (two-way average).
 

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Ford just went cheap on us and charged us more than ever for a slower top speed compared to the last GT500. Basically Ford went up on the price by 50,000 compared to the last GT500. But gave us a slower TOP END. The Dodge charger that is heavier then the 500 goes over 200 mph no problem.
 

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The car was designed to be a track car, not a top end speed vehicle. The car is purpose built. You don't need to go faster and Ford didn't engineer it to do so.

The previous 500 was not a purpose built track car, and at the time, top speed was an important metric.
 

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I would think not since it is electronically limited to approximately 180 mph. That tells me the cars are capable of faster speeds so drag is not stopping the car from going 180, the computer is. I think they all can reach 180. The unlimited top speed could be different due to aero and drag but not the limited speed of 180.

I would like to see someone turn off the limiter and see how fast the car can go.
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Ford just went cheap on us and charged us more than ever for a slower top speed compared to the last GT500. Basically Ford went up on the price by 50,000 compared to the last GT500. But gave us a slower TOP END.
Tell us all about how many '13/'14 owners were able to get their stock vehicle over the 200mph threshold - hint, not a single one. That said, the last GT500 was an utter dog at the track.

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Sixteen seconds per lap is an utter eternity. Boy did they ever go cheap back in '13/'14. Basically those owners were lied to about real world top speed. And you couldn't get the car in an automatic. What a sham that "effort" was.
 

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189 mph - is that what you were able to get the speedo to readout before the limiter cut in or is that without the limiter? The speedo readout (esp. at that speed) is probably not very accurate so I'd be curious what the true GPS tracked speed was at that time.

If 189 mph is accurate, then I guess I underestimated the additional drag of the GT500 over the ZL1.
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