GT350 Intake on Ford Performance Website

[jkstang78]

I'm very interested in this intake because I'd like to keep this car N/A. Only way I'd go with a power adder is if I sell the 91 Turbo car. Then I'd go for a hellion kit for this car.

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[sandeale]

Even then any non roots style power adder would benefit from improved breathing

 

[markmurfie]

my honest opinion about this manifold is if you want to increase the top end RPM power but keep fuel efficiency technology it would be an excellent choice. If you want the highest top end power and don't care about MPGs I think other manifolds would have a slight advantage over this one.

 

[sandeale]

It's not so much the fuel efficiency its the new found bottom end torque that the CMCVs are responsible for, compared to the previous gen coyote this car makes more tq sooner and continues through the tq peak producing better numbers

 

[markmurfie]

If you are referring to dyno graphs you must not know the CMCV/IMRC is open at WOT 100%. You can not get more power or torque from restricting the intake port size. If you are referring to normal accelerating power like used when passing or gradual accelerating to merge. I believe if you tune the valve timing to not need the CMCV/IMRC you would get more "bottom end torque." CMCV allows for valve timing to operate in a much more fuel efficient manner sacrificing power. Its called Atkinson effect and it happens on the compression stroke. The ecu balances fuel efficiency and power. At a certain point the ECU switches from this valve timing back to a more conventional valve timing and allows the engine to make its maximum power. You cant increase the amount of air that goes through the intake in any way other than FI. More airflow is directly related to more power.

 

[sandeale]

So they are aopen iregardless of load or rpm, nope didnt know thought they were partly load based as well, thank you for clarifying

 

[FivepointOHYEAH]

Sandeale quit ***** footing, you are on a mission from God. We need data, go pro footage, dyno graphs, butt log diaries and more. Set up a gofundme account , Kickstarter or something. I , I mean, we need this now, you are the chosen one. Don't forget we look up to you

 

[sandeale]

Got it boss, dyno on monday working on trying to get a video made...lol

 

[rozay]

Sandeale quit ***** footing, you are on a mission from God. We need data, go pro footage, dyno graphs, butt log diaries and more. Set up a gofundme account , Kickstarter or something. I , I mean, we need this now, you are the chosen one. Don't forget we look up to you

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[Obsol3te]

Just went for a ride-a-long with sandeale. The car feels strong. Can't wait to see how the power looks come Monday

 

[Socalmustang]

For you all,

what kind of HP gain and TQ gain would have to be made to be worth buying?

BTW Someone mentioned it was $1500, a vendor here said he could have it shipped for $1100

 

[markmurfie]

and you could'nt even atleast give us a potatoe quality video? tease.

 

[sandeale]

It was impromptu, I'll get a video made shortly, do you all prefer a speedo shot or what?

 

[Mr.Black]

Sorry for the lack of replies, I've been working a 2 am shift for the last couple of days, no dyno yet, they've been tied up tuning customer cars, I'm going to try again today.

As far as driving impressions go, I've been running my previous set-up for the last 17,000 miles, so I trust what the ol butt dyno says...the car definitely pulls a lot stronger from mid range to my current rev limiter of 7600, there's no loss of steam around 68-7000 like with the stock manifold, It's just a full pull to the limiter. I've actually had to readjust my driving style because I could feel the car just start to peter out up top and would shift accordingly, here recently I've inadvertently found the rev limiter, so now I actually watch the tach to make sure it doesn't become a habit.

I have a feeling the pull would continue higher, but until I beef up some of our more frail bottom end parts (oil pump gears, crankshaft sprocket and probably timing chain guides while I'm in there) I'm going to maintain the 7600 rev limit although might bump it to 7800.

So as soon as I get to the dyno, expect the pull to end at 7600 for now.

I hear a lot of people on here talk about the timing chain and oil pump gear, the timing chains were probably reduced in size for less rotational mass for the new Voodoo engines 8250 rpm redline since they use the same timing chain as the new Coyote. In other words I wouldn't worry about them when revving higher, the problem (very few) only seem to come when strapping a blower on the car which puts a lot of new forces that weren't meant to be there when the parts were designed. Same goes for the oil pump gear, it has worked in the Boss 302 for years with people revving over 8000 rpm and its the same one used in the Coyote since new.

 

[sandeale]

Thats what I'm starting to look into, it seems most reports of failed gears is from crank driven accessories of the forced induction variety.

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