Gotta put yourself in the shoes of the victim here...I don't know this for a fact, but these £7 pouches may, in hindsight, have been the difference between having the car nicked, and having it left alone. Who knows - the thieves that took this Stang may have attempted the same method on other cars before this, saw that it didn't work and moved on, eventually finding the Mustang.think i must be the only person that doesn't care...I have insurance its what its for there's no way to ever stop anyone nicking a car so the trick is to minimise the damage they do when they do nick it so if its recovered it doesn't get written off as being too damaged or cost you a fortune to repair.
they have standard deadlocks etc on the car as default + immobiliser + alarm its more than enough and just keep the key more than 5 foot away from any door/window and you'll be fine no point fucking around with these pouches etc.
...but anyone breaking in and intentionally come onto the first floor i can claim I feared for my life and it was self defence.
Unless you're a thief with one of these magic boxes - range is much, much further. I should clarify the scenarios I'm concerned with...1. car on the driveway at night, whether I'm home or not, with unprotected keys in the house. 2. Car left home alone all day, key(s) in the house.the range is about 5 foot max so move it somewhere 5 foot away from a door/window and its safe
the RFID in the fob cannot be extended as you think it is. all those "extender" boxes are, are extra sensitive receives that can pick up on signals too weak to reach the car normally because the car receiver is wrapped in metal and typically lowest cost. Think of it as having a portable radio (are you old enough to remember these? : ) ) without an aerial vs with an aerial then they boost/relay it by just mirrioring it via a local transmitter so the car can pick up on it. Thats why you should move it 5 foot from the outside of the premise as that should be well beyond the range of most of these receiversUnless you're a thief with one of these magic boxes - range is much, much further. I should clarify the scenarios I'm concerned with...1. car on the driveway at night, whether I'm home or not, with unprotected keys in the house. 2. Car left home alone all day, key(s) in the house.
When I'm actually using the car, the key fob won't be in its pouch (the spare will), it'll be thrown in my pocket as normal & I'll use the keyless features.
Hmmm. Just had a long text convo with young Manders on the subject...I don't think I fully understood the technology...anyway, £7 spent, I'll use them - just for my own peace of mind.the RFID in the fob cannot be extended as you think it is. all those "extender" boxes are, are extra sensitive receives that can pick up on signals too weak to reach the car normally because the car receiver is wrapped in metal and typically lowest cost. Think of it as having a portable radio (are you old enough to remember these? : ) ) without an aerial vs with an aerial then they boost/relay it by just mirrioring it via a local transmitter so the car can pick up on it. Thats why you should move it 5 foot from the outside of the premise as that should be well beyond the range of most of these receivers
put the keys in your bed room and quit worrying
Not necessarily the best idea either. Is it better that the theives grab the keys from just inside your door, or go tooled up seaching through your house endagering your family for the keys.put the keys in your bed room and quit worrying
As there are some very knowledgeable people on here - could someone pickup the code of the key (for future theft use) as per my previous description - i.e. when removed from the pouch - or when the unlock button is pressed on the fob ?I have the pouches - and they certainly block the key signal ok - but as soon as the key is removed from the pouch - I guess it is "scan-able"?
How long does it take to actually pinch the code? if it is done immediately that the key fob is pressed - then the pouch might stop scanning keys with signal amplifiers (taking the signal from your house / pocket etc) - but as soon as you press the fob I guess it can be scanned at that point?
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because at that range the passive rfid signal will be so weak that even a really sensitive receiver wouldn't be able to pick it up from the background noise. Its a simple factor of signal strength vs distance.So I don't see why having the fob 5 feet (or 20 feet) inside my house will stop it being stolen...
button pressing is a completely different function to the keyless system so button pressing is irrelevant (but yes it can also be intercepted this is how they used to do it in older times before keyless systems became the norm)As there are some very knowledgeable people on here - could someone pickup the code of the key (for future theft use) as per my previous description - i.e. when removed from the pouch - or when the unlock button is pressed on the fob ?
Ah, OK - didn't realise the fobs have passive RFID. (I made the dodgy assumption that it's active because there's a battery in there!)because at that range the passive rfid signal will be so weak that even a really sensitive receiver wouldn't be able to pick it up from the background noise. Its a simple factor of signal strength vs distance.