FP track handling pack

[fatbillybob]

Is the FP track handling pack already in the PP1 package?

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[1MEAN18]

Is the FP track handling pack already in the PP1 package?

No. If you are talking about the FP3 set up in its different forms, then that is an upgrade over PP. I have the shocks/struts & "y" lowering spring from FP3, with a Steeda rear drag sway bar set up with complete Steeda & BMR bushing inserts/vertical links/toe links and it transformed the car over my regular base suspension (non PP '18).

 

[fatbillybob]

I'm new to all this and it is very confusing. I think this is the only "Track" set up from Ford

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-FR3A-M8A

I thought that was what is in the performance pack 1

What are the different forms? What if FP3? Just trying to understand. If you started with a base suspension then I could understand a big jump. I have a 19 with pp1 and I am not impressed at all. In fact totally disappointing on my home racetrack. I think the stock michelin 4s piolt tires are supposed to be good. Are the michelins at least as fast as the basic crop of 200TWR tires like falken 615 etc? I don't know much about street tires. In my race class I'm on Hoosier DOT race tires so that's my only experience.

 

[1MEAN18]

I'm new to all this and it is very confusing. I think this is the only "Track" set up from Ford

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-FR3A-M8A

I thought that was what is in the performance pack 1

What are the different forms? What if FP3? Just trying to understand. If you started with a base suspension then I could understand a big jump. I have a 19 with pp1 and I am not impressed at all. In fact totally disappointing on my home racetrack. I think the stock michelin 4s piolt tires are supposed to be good. Are the michelins at least as fast as the basic crop of 200TWR tires like falken 615 etc? I don't know much about street tires. In my race class I'm on Hoosier DOT race tires so that's my only experience.

Looks like I had a typo...meant to type: FR3 instead of FP3. You have the right link. You can actually buy the kit in different stages, I bought the entry stage so just the shocks/struts/springs...you can add Ford's sway bars to the kit also, but I wanted the Steeda rear drag sway, and haven't yet seen the need to swap out the base front sway bar because my set up is mostly for 1/4 mile drag racing and cruising around town on the weekend. Starting with a soft base suspension and going the direction I took was a big jump, the car is night and day now...but starting from PP level I cannot comment on as a driver, only from ride's in friends PP cars over time. You might wanna look at all Steeda parts if you wanna go above and beyond what Ford offers. Or BMR stuff...both are the best in suspension stuff if you ask me. I stuck with Ford for the struts/shocks and springs because I wanted a certain ride height....lowered, but only a bit, not as much as most people want or like. The y springs I used dropped the front 1.25" and the rear .75" and gave my car a tiny bit of front to back rake (rear just a bit higher) that I wanted.

 

[1MEAN18]

As far as tires you are asking about... I dunno. I'm running a set of race star recluse 95 skinnies on a DOT M&H and RTR Tech 7's out back with a 305/35/19" Nitto 05R. I'm sure someone else will jump in with more comments on a more track car oriented set up since I'm mostly set up to drag race. I'm sure you'll find the info you seek here though...lots of knowledge here.

 

[fatbillybob]

Thanks for info on rideheight change. I'm road racing. The way the PP1 feels I want to go the other way in RH where the rear is lower and more planted assuming I don't catch a bunch of air and compromise top speed on long straights like Daytona.

 

[1MEAN18]

Thanks for info on rideheight change. I'm road racing. The way the PP1 feels I want to go the other way in RH where the rear is lower and more planted assuming I don't catch a bunch of air and compromise top speed on long straights like Daytona.

No problem, glad to share set up info. If you take the time to do an IRS brace, toe links, vertical links and at least the Steeda or equivalent IRS subframe bushings and bolt sleeves you'd see no need in thinking about keeping the nose of the car up to transfer weight. I added the differential bushings (black one's that are 90 duro and for street/strip) and Steeda big rear sway bar too, and my car is unbelievable planted in the rear. My problem is I concentrated on all the racing tricks that now I need to catch my front end suspension up to the rear, so in the future that means front sway/control arm upgrade at the bare minimum.

 

[HeelToeHero]

The hot setup is the ford performance dampers with bmr handling springs. The rates are close to 350r rates and the dampers are top notch.

Don't expect much of a drop, but these cars don't like to be lowered since the geometry will get out of sorts. The rear is sensitive and there aren't any pieces on the market to correct the geometry changes like there are for the front.

 

[JohnD]

The Ford FR3 track suspension is an excellent package, I've been using it for 2 seasons now and it continually impresses me as to how well engineered it is and how it transformed this car completely. Ford designed the car, built the car, shook the car down, developed it for racing with Multimatic, has all kinds of track data on the car and knows it better than anyone else. Why would people think that small companies with a handful of employees can engineer something better than Ford could? While the FR3 kit is great on track it is also very liveable on the street, it is ideal for a dual purpose car. Spring rates are the same as the GT350R but are progressive so not harsh on the street at all. The pieces are all engineered to work with each other, mix and match from different companies is not a bright idea. It is hard to go wrong with this kit IMHO.

 

[dmann]

The FR3 is definitely a step up from the PP1 setup. I have done several track days with the PP1 setup and it's a little floaty. While I haven't tracked it with the new setup, it just feels better, flatter, doesn't nose dive when i brake etc

 

[PaddyPrix]

I'm another happy track package owner as well. Got my base 19GT and immediately hated how boaty it felt, tossed this on, and it's more responsive on the road, but what I really love is when I track it. Does a fantastic job, staying real level under hard braking and flat on 1.3-1.4G turns. Perhaps driver mod is part of it, but it certainly helps put down better lap times than stock GT's and Shelbys, and stays even with better handling cars like BRZ/Miata/S2k's in the turns, winning my advanced HPDE group on an otherwise stock car. Having a real hard time thinking of a better bang/buck mod for a stock car if you're road racing/tracking it.

 

[Oceanside_S550]

Is the FP track handling pack already in the PP1 package?

The PP1 has the Ford Street Handling Pack suspension equivalent, I also have a non PP GT but daily mine as well as hit some canyons here in SoCal. I can attest to the great quality of the Street/ PP1 suspension and plan on upgrading to the FR3 now that my driving and knowledge of the roads is exceeding the capability of this package. One of the guys I drive with has the same build but with the FR3, while I can hold his lines on most of the course there are certain sections I know with certainty my car has to back off and use a less efficient line, my only saving grace is I am about 30 more HP so I make up time where I can, but he dive bombs turns with GT350s, Focus RS's, and GT3RS's with confidence.

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