Ford Racing ProCal Tune

[Yellowboost]

I was with the technician it didnt ask any questions. We hit program and it went and at the end just said successfully installed.

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[Yellowboost]

Hopefully like others have stated, it takes about 100 to 200 miles to adjust, if it stays like it is ill be going back. I used 110 octane 4 gallons and was on 1/4 tank then topped off with 92 octane shell nitro.

 

[Cheo]

Hopefully like others have stated, it takes about 100 to 200 miles to adjust, if it stays like it is ill be going back. I used 110 octane 4 gallons and was on 1/4 tank then topped off with 92 octane shell nitro.

I went back to the dealer twice because I felt like the tune wasn't installed properly (my GT500 tune didn't do this, it was fine day one), so I waited patiently, and it starts improving at 100 miles, by 200 miles there's a big difference (just hit 200 myself), I'm assuming it'll continue to get better. Start doing a few spirited runs around 100 miles (per the Ford Racing tech).

 

[Yellowboost]

I did a bunch of 50 to 70 wot pulls in 3rd, 4th and a few in 5th last night. Quite a few. Definitely didnt have the same pep. I'm curious now as to why I wasnt asked the questions during the tune upload?

 

[nancy]

Hey guys,

looking at getting the tune and after reading the majority of this super long thread, quick question.

Wouldn't it make a lot of sense to simply get the fp tune installed by an ASE tech, then not register this (while keeping the invoice) so if any problems do arise and you have to go to the dealership; they will have no idea you have a tune. which hopefully will just fly under the radar you have a tune.

If they say, hey you have a tune tell them that you have fp tune and show them the invoice from the ASE tech. If they say you have to register with fp, just do it after the fact they bring it up.

Or is there some time period you have to tell fp after you get the tune installed?

 

[16EcomustangDIB]

Hopefully like others have stated, it takes about 100 to 200 miles to adjust, if it stays like it is ill be going back. I used 110 octane 4 gallons and was on 1/4 tank then topped off with 92 octane shell nitro.

What Fuel octane were you using before the 110 and the tune? I have always used 93 and after the tune I could tell an immediate improvement. It wasn't as smooth like it is now but immediately after the tune the throttle response was night and day difference and the car just goes. I'm starting to think that some folks were running 87 before the tune and the car had to go through octane adjustment plus the new tune parameters resulting in longer learning process.

 

[Yellowboost]

I'm sure the ford performance tune puts a certain log number in your pcm. I believe the warranty on the powertrain transfers from for to the ford performance division for 3yrs 36k. I could be wrong don't quote me on that.

 

[Spykexx]

I'm sure the ford performance tune puts a certain log number in your pcm. I believe the warranty on the powertrain transfers from for to the ford performance division for 3yrs 36k. I could be wrong don't quote me on that.

It doesn't transfer to FP. Basically if you take the car in for any issues and they find that the tune was the cause of it, they contact FP and they take it from there. It doesn't void your 5/60. They just won't cover anything after the 3/36 IF they find the tune was the cause of the issue.

 

[jtmat]

Hey guys,

looking at getting the tune and after reading the majority of this super long thread, quick question.

Wouldn't it make a lot of sense to simply get the fp tune installed by an ASE tech, then not register this (while keeping the invoice) so if any problems do arise and you have to go to the dealership; they will have no idea you have a tune. which hopefully will just fly under the radar you have a tune.

If they say, hey you have a tune tell them that you have fp tune and show them the invoice from the ASE tech. If they say you have to register with fp, just do it after the fact they bring it up.

Or is there some time period you have to tell fp after you get the tune installed?

You want to register after the engine has a hole in it and the dealer found out you have a tune but you are not forthcoming? I don't get what this buys you. At best it simply causes the dealer to go through extra work when they could have called FP from the jump.

You will have a huge gt350 cai sitting there... I think they will have an idea you (possibly) have a FP tune.

 

[Spykexx]

You want to register after the engine has a hole in it and the dealer found out you have a tune but you are not forthcoming? I don't get what this buys you. At best it simply causes the dealer to go through extra work when they could have called FP from the jump.

You will have a huge gt350 cai sitting there... I think they will have an idea you (possibly) have a FP tune.

Not to mention it's in the requirements of the warranty. You trying to evade the requirement isn't going to look good on your behalf. They are the ones covering your part/engine, not your dealership.

Secondly not sure what it buys you other than a massive headache and possibly $$$. It's not 3/36 from the time of installation. It's 3/36 from the start of the original warranty i.e: when you purchased it.

What's there to be scared of at the dealership to keep it a secret? All of your warranties are still intact. Even the original powertrain as long as it wasn't the tune that caused it.

 

[Cobra Jet]

It's not 3/36 from the time of installation. It's 3/36 from the start of the original warranty i.e: when you purchased it.

I don't think many folks are reading the warranty or fine print of the warranty clause on the Ford tune.

It's as you stated, 3/36 from the original purchase date of the vehicle, not from the date the tune was purchased.

So, if your original warranty was 3/36 and you only have 8k remaining at the point of a Ford Tune installation, then you're covered for 8k (nothing more or less) IF anything were to happen after the Tune was installed, as per the instructions and warranty provisions.

Someone else can certainly clarify the warranty provisions, but I know it's been brought up and discussed in multiple threads on here as to the coverage.


I'd imagine the Ford Tune is also as safe as it can be and is tailored to prevent thousands of owner-induced "whoopsies" from occurring with as many stop gaps and safety nets in the programming as could be designed (and approved by Ford's legal team). Not saying there can't be any failures or blown engines, but does anyone think Ford would create and let loose an all balls out tune with no nannies incorporated?

 

[jbailer]

I don't think many folks are reading the warranty or fine print of the warranty clause on the Ford tune.

It's as you stated, 3/36 from the original purchase date of the vehicle, not from the date the tune was purchased.

So, if your original warranty was 3/36 and you only have 8k remaining at the point of a Ford Tune installation, then you're covered for 8k (nothing more or less) IF anything were to happen after the Tune was installed, as per the instructions and warranty provisions.

Someone else can certainly clarify the warranty provisions, but I know it's been brought up and discussed in multiple threads on here as to the coverage.


I'd imagine the Ford Tune is also as safe as it can be and is tailored to prevent thousands of owner-induced "whoopsies" from occurring with as many stop gaps and safety nets in the programming as could be designed (and approved by Ford's legal team). Not saying there can't be any failures or blown engines, but does anyone think Ford would create and let loose an all balls out tune with no nannies incorporated?

Phil, I think you're right, some people were a little confused thinking that the 3/36 warranty from FP started when they got it installed but I think they are relatively few. I think the thing more people get confused on is that our powertrain warranty is 5/60, it's that 2/24 after the FP warranty ends whether or not Ford will cover any powertrain issues.

I think the answer is pretty simple. It's exactly the same as it was during the 3/36, if the dealer believes the damage was a result of the FP tune, then Ford will not cover it, if they think it wasn't, then they'll submit it through Ford during that remaining 2/24 of the original 5/60. Like always, the dealer just wants to get paid for the work they are doing while as an authorized agent for Ford, have a fiduciary responsibility so won't just have Ford pay for anything.

The problem is, nobody can tell you whether or not it will be covered except possibly the Service Manager (not advisor) at the dealer you take the car to. Just like they can deny warranty work if they see an intake on your car, they could do the same after the 3/36. While other dealers will evaluate it correctly and determine if they think the tune may have caused the problem. Even that is very subjective though. No guarantees...

 

[tw557]

I think what the other question is getting at is if you don't register it would not be documented in fords system. So after the warranty is up there is no record of this tune until they hook up to the computer. So I guess it would be just a little more stealthy if something were to come up. Not too sure how the delayed registration would work if you do have a failure though during the warranty period. .

 

[nancy]

Phil, I think you're right, some people were a little confused thinking that the 3/36 warranty from FP started when they got it installed but I think they are relatively few. I think the thing more people get confused on is that our powertrain warranty is 5/60, it's that 2/24 after the FP warranty ends whether or not Ford will cover any powertrain issues.

I think the answer is pretty simple. It's exactly the same as it was during the 3/36, if the dealer believes the damage was a result of the FP tune, then Ford will not cover it, if they think it wasn't, then they'll submit it through Ford during that remaining 2/24 of the original 5/60. Like always, the dealer just wants to get paid for the work they are doing while as an authorized agent for Ford, have a fiduciary responsibility so won't just have Ford pay for anything.

The problem is, nobody can tell you whether or not it will be covered except possibly the Service Manager (not advisor) at the dealer you take the car to. Just like they can deny warranty work if they see an intake on your car, they could do the same after the 3/36. While other dealers will evaluate it correctly and determine if they think the tune may have caused the problem. Even that is very subjective though. No guarantees...

Yes, my concern isnt the first 3/36, rather its the remaining 5/60 powertrain. I read the warranty information, contrary to the above comments and my concerns is that if I have any issue with powertrain how can they not simply blame the tune? it is so easy for them to deny any claims related to powertrain due to the tune.

I think what the other question is getting at is if you don't register it would not be documented in fords system. So after the warranty is up there is no record of this tune until they hook up to the computer. So I guess it would be just a little more stealthy if something were to come up. Not too sure how the delayed registration would work if you do have a failure though during the warranty period. .

Exactly, I guess I wasnt very clear with my original comment as to why I wanted to do this. but thats exactly why i wanted to do this, the less the dealership knows the better when it comes to warranty

 

[Spykexx]

Exactly, I guess I wasnt very clear with my original comment as to why I wanted to do this. but thats exactly why i wanted to do this, the less the dealership knows the better when it comes to warranty

1)They will notice by the use of the GT350 intake.
2)If you don't use the Intake good luck with warranty anyways. Some have gotten it in writing they can use otherwise but some have spoken directly to FP and they said it must be used.
3)It wouldn't surprise me if they flat out rejected the claim due to not registering and then trying to cover your tracks later.

TBH if I was in their position I would be inclined to tell you where to shove that warranty if I found out you were doing this lol. I'd much rather a customer be upfront with me. Most warranties have a specific amount of time to be registered in in order to gain the benefits. I'd contact FP for this before continuing forward. It'd be hard to believe they'd let you register a year later only once an issue arises since it is indeed a requirement of the warranty.

As far as after the 3/36 You're on your own anyways. Doesn't matter what you did prior for registering. But are you willing to risk the motor in the 3/36 just to get the extra 2? I feel like in that case you might as well go with Tune+ or another tune you'll get better results from. The dealership will be able to tell that you have the tune regardless when they hook it up. So if they were to not notice for the FP chances are it'd be the same for Tune+ and others. I think them denying it solely on having a tune depends on the dealer. Some aren't open to ANY modification what so ever. Some are willing to look into it.

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