Ford Racing ProCal Tune

[Dadsreward]

If you've been using the Pedalmax and removed it when you installed the tune, then it is going to feel less responsive because your foot has been trained or conditioned to expect a certain amount of oomph per pedal travel. If you feel that it is too unresponsive, I'd say install the pedalmax. It only changes the relationship of pedal travel to the actual throttle body position. If you set pedalmax twice as responsive as stock, then at half throttle will be like full throttle. It's trickery, WOT is not any different.

I think you missed interpreted. I have never used pedalmax, but am considering it in addition to my tune

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[sharp21]

Electrickery! My pedal feels just fine, real responsive

 

[ForYourOwnGood]

I think you missed interpreted. I have never used pedalmax, but am considering it in addition to my tune

Have you tried just driving in sport mode? The normal/eco mode has garbage throttle response. You can also recalibrate the pedal if its learned improperly.

 

[Dadsreward]

Have you tried just driving in sport mode? The normal/eco mode has garbage throttle response. You can also recalibrate the pedal if its learned improperly.

Please elaborate on how to recalibrate the pedal.

 

[TheLion]

So, here's an odd question.

Has anyone noticed if the FP tune codes the active shutter system to stay open 100% of the time to compensate for (possibly) increased intake/engine temps due to the increased power?

I'd really like to put a GT grille in my EB, but everything I'm reading says they won't fit with the shutters in place. If I could remove them and not throw a CEL that I'd have to look at all the time, that'd be optimal. Other tuners have the ability to code this fault out, not so much with us...

Different PCM software revisions react slightly differently. The program code in a 2015 Jan build is not he same as the program code in a 2016 Jan build. I have a May 2016 EB that as of the end of last year had the latest revision of PCM software according for Ford Performance when the set up my calibration file (that may have changed now that 2017's are out). I also have a large 20x14x3.5 in front mount inter cooler (levels Gen 3 Street Core) and GT grills with a velossatec Ram Air Duct. I removed the shudders and unplugged the shudder servo module completely, I have had no CEL or wrench lights over thousands of miles now (maybe 4k miles on the FP tune total), also no codes when checked with an ACTRON code reader or the ProCal software on my laptop.

Normally it would present as a body train (yah, odd terminology but that's how they described it) code beginning with "U". Body codes typically do not throw a CEL as they are NOT engine related, there fore the safety, efficiency, power output and cleanliness (epa) of the engine is not affected. They MAY throw a wrench light in some cases which is a non-engine related issue, but it would depend on the PCM program revision. Some times manufacturers make minor changes to correct bugs or in some cases frequent "issues" that aren't really issues. It's entirely possible they check to see if the module is present or not and don't bother to throw a code if it's unplugged. Even if it did throw a code, if there's no light indicator on, what does it matter? It won't affect your e-check and you would still be alerted to any other "wrench light worthy" problems.

You could test your car, simply unplug the module after the shudders are in the open position (to make sure you get adequate flow) and then drive around for 1k miles and check for "U" type chassis codes. You can also manually open them when the car is off if your careful, make sure to unplug the module then too.

 

[Dirty-EB-Chicago]

Half throttle with the pedalmax is probably more HP then half throttle with the tune. But sure, just push the pedle farther or just keep the pedalmax with the tune and it should be a bit moer powerful.

:headbonk: Well yeah I really hope so. Considering the car with pedalmax would be WOT and the car without Pedalmax would be at half throttle. Understandably your perception may be that pedalmax is adding power but it doesn't lol. That's not its function. its function is to provide better throttle response, and I'm sure it serves that function well. If your preference is to have a more sensitive pedal and no pedal lag (which is the only aspect of pedalmax that's appealing to me personally.) then yeah its a good product. I realize they advertise it saying "adds power at low range!" but that's like believing a CAI will provide instant gains of 40 hp. The only difference is a CAI might actually provide a slight performance gain lol. So on the other hand the FP tune provides a peak gain of 100 hp over the stock tune around 5k rpm IIRC. So comparing the two doesn't make a lick of sense. I just felt the need to clarify.

 

[tcman54]

Please elaborate on how to recalibrate the pedal.

An earlier thread of mine might help: http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65335&highlight=gas+pedal

TC

 

[tw557]

:headbonk: Well yeah I really hope so. Considering the car with pedalmax would be WOT and the car without Pedalmax would be at half throttle. Understandably your perception may be that pedalmax is adding power but it doesn't lol. That's not its function. its function is to provide better throttle response, and I'm sure it serves that function well. If your preference is to have a more sensitive pedal and no pedal lag (which is the only aspect of pedalmax that's appealing to me personally.) then yeah its a good product. I realize they advertise it saying "adds power at low range!" but that's like believing a CAI will provide instant gains of 40 hp. The only difference is a CAI might actually provide a slight performance gain lol. So on the other hand the FP tune provides a peak gain of 100 hp over the stock tune around 5k rpm IIRC. So comparing the two doesn't make a lick of sense. I just felt the need to clarify.

BELIEVE ME I don't want to be argumentative I just want to let others like myself to give the pedalmax a try if warranty is something very important to you. If you can train your foot to always push the pedal farther then normal or drive Wot a lot I'm sure this will do no help. And I have data logged this and their claim that the throttle opens quicker is not true. It just open the throttle body farther by about 75% more. The statements above are a little contradictory. The car actually has more power at say 1/2 throttle then it did before. Probably about 25hp or so simply because the throttle body is open farther. So if you very seldom drive your car past say 3/4 throttle you will have the same power and acceleration as a tune. My plan is to get a gt in a year or 2 so I definitely don't want to blow my gt "fund" on a blown motor and when I did the beginning of my gt test drive it was less powerful then my eco until then I gave much more throttle and of course the smiles came. So in reality it does add power at low THOTTLE. Yes peak HP will not change one bit. But for daily driving I think it is very relevant to compare to a tune. For very spirited or racing this is probably not relevant much. I also would really like all the out right gains from a tune but that CPO is just too valuable to me. Also I think Jms gives a money back 14 period for someone to try. I just want to let others like myself to give this a try and see if it satisfies you just enough before killing the warranty on a motor that is just a little to prone to throwing a rod for my risk.

 

[KV Racing]

Just my opinion, but pedalmax sounds like a wallet lightening device to me.

 

[tw557]

Unfortunately the cost is way more then what the cost should be for a relatively simple device. I got one used for 175 which was still a lot but worth the effect for me.

 

[jtmat]

BELIEVE ME I don't want to be argumentative I just want to let others like myself to give the pedalmax a try if warranty is something very important to you.

I think this section of the forum is against pedalmax since people attributed to the ecoboom. I don't know if it did or did not.

I say purchase whatever works for you and be happy. If you are happy with it, great.

when I did the beginning of my gt test drive it was less powerful then my eco until then I gave much more throttle and of course the smiles came. So in reality it does add power at low THOTTLE.

At one point I was going to trade my vert for GT vert. The gt felt heavy and slower (which I know it was not). If you go over to the 0-60 threads, you can see a tuned eco is not that far off from a stock gt... and even less if you never track the car and stay on public hwy.

Owning a GT is a lot more than "I can do 0-60 in x time". It is an overall experience... I get it.

 

[tw557]

To be honest I want a gt more when I'm not driving the ecoboost. When I'm driving the ecoboost I am more content and have plenty of fun as a daily driver. I will admit that complete lack of pull in the higher rpm is a bummer. So I just short shift and love the torque. I guess the emotional part of owning the gt is hard to forget about sometimes. My first car was a 88 gt.

 

[S7N]

How will we know if Ford does any revisions to this tune in the future?

 

[jbailer]

How will we know if Ford does any revisions to this tune in the future?

That's a great question. I think right now the only way is to download it again and compare the filenames, not very efficient.

 

[jtmat]

How will we know if Ford does any revisions to this tune in the future?

Maybe a calendar "meeting" to open your procal software every 6 to 12 months... once you do that, it will let you know if there is an update.

I do that with some off the wall software I own... not perfect, but it works fine.

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