First service

[Allan]

Took my car in for the first oil change. The dealership that I use has a bay to pull into when dropping of your vehicle. The first thing that they did was to add the paper floor mats and bag the seats. The guy that pulled it out of the bay must have been old enough to know Henry Ford himself. Which was a good thing. He knew what a manual trans was and was very respectful. Oil change took a bit longer only because the filter that they had in stock was damaged and I have to wait for a new filter to be delivered. Still nothing to complain about. As things were finishing up I was informed that my tires we shot and needed to be replaced. I said no way. Show me. And they did. The inside of all 4 tires were worn down to 3/32. I said hell no. Must be an alignment issue. They offered to check it but I was out of time. Two days later I took the car to the Firestone store to have the alignment checked. The toe in the front was out. My question is this. Do I have a snowballs chance in hell at getting a replacement set of tires?

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[460Fred]

Please tell us how many miles on your car.
I’m just learning this alignment thing myself as to what all the numbers mean.
Back to your chances of getting a new set of shoes....I’d say slim at best. Ford can say alignment is on you especially if you did something to knock off the alignment. You cannot prove you didn’t do anything To cause the problem. They cannot prove you did unless something else is off.
Pending on how you drive, the tires can wear out pretty quick. I’m expecting to replace them every year.
Edit....
Did Firestone set the alignment or not able to based on worn tires?

 

[Allan]

Please tell us how many miles on your car.
I’m just learning this alignment thing myself as to what all the numbers mean.
Back to your chances of getting a new set of shoes....I’d say slim at best. Ford can say alignment is on you especially if you did something to knock off the alignment. You cannot prove you didn’t do anything To cause the problem. They cannot prove you did unless something else is off.
Pending on how you drive, the tires can wear out pretty quick. I’m expecting to replace them every year.
Edit....
Did Firestone set the alignment or not able to based on worn tires?

 

[Allan]

Sorry. 1800 miles. I don’t expect anything for free. only looking for a decent discount.

 

[460Fred]

Sorry. 1800 miles. I don’t expect anything for free. only looking for a decent discount.

Seriously? Ya I’d be raising a stink!!!

 

[feeny1701]

I'm no expert on tires or alignment, but I wouldn't think the toe being .08" out of spec would wear out 10k mile tires at 1800. Do you have any track days on the car? What kind of tire pressure are you running?

 

[Allan]

I'm no expert on tires or alignment, but I wouldn't think the toe being .08" out of spec would wear out 10k mile tires at 1800. Do you have any track days on the car? What kind of tire pressure are you running?

32 psi cold. Never been on track.

 

[proeagles]

I agree the toe is not that bad to have caused that much wear necessarily but no way will you get new tires for nothing. You could have hit a bump or something to knock the toe out. If I'm not mistaken you have Cup2 tires on that car and they only have 4/32 to begin with so your tires are not actually worn out.

 

[Haas]

Pics of the tires?

 

[460Fred]

If I'm not mistaken you have Cup2 tires on that car and they only have 4/32 to begin with so your tires are not actually worn out.

Thanks for that! Kind of changes the way I’ll be looking at this for myself.

 

[Allan]

Pics of the tires?

 

[460Fred]

I see no issue with those tires. They look just like mine with 2500 miles on them.
I stopped by a buddies house on my way home after buying my new GT350....He’s the shop foreman at a local high end dealership. Almost the first thing that came out of his mouth was “you need new tires man. How many miles on this?” Had under 200.

 

[Allan]

I see no issue with those tires. They look just like mine with 2500 miles on them.
I stopped by a buddies house on my way home after buying my new GT350....He’s the shop foreman at a local high end dealership. Almost the first thing that came out of his mouth was “you need new tires man. How many miles on this?” Had under 200.

The measurements tell the tale. 3/32 on the inside. 5/32 on the outside. Thank you for the input. I really do appreciate it. I am only looking for opinions. I will continue to drive it until they are bald.

 

[gmuffley]

The dealership is either ignorant of the tread depth of the Cup 2 tires or they are trying to cheat you. Either way, I would not trust them.

 

[NoXiDe]

The measurements tell the tale. 3/32 on the inside. 5/32 on the outside. Thank you for the input. I really do appreciate it. I am only looking for opinions. I will continue to drive it until they are bald.

LOL, you're tires are not shot. They are not experienced with Pilot Cup 2 tires at all. They are fine but please educate yourself for 2 reasons.

1) To understand how to properly use these tires
BillyJohnson made a wonderful thread:
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/th...-of-making-bespoke-tires.143076/#post-2959727
BillyJohnson's MotoIQ article:
https://motoiq.com/not-all-michelin-cup-2-tires-are-created-the-same/
2) Educate others who will question your tires (tire bays, dealerships, tag inspections checks)

Please read it. It will make you a better enthusiast and more knowledgeable of how to use these tires in the dry and wet.

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