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First Impressions Poll

  • Wow! Better than expected

    Votes: 23 10.5%
  • As Expected

    Votes: 123 56.2%
  • Not Impressed

    Votes: 66 30.1%
  • Buying A Camaro

    Votes: 7 3.2%

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...then when the car didn't turn out to be a sound barrier busting, bullet proof golden eagle fighter jet w/ a soft server ice cream dispenser in the glove box we're all a little let down.
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I have determined that months of pent-up desire to actually drive this car have sent me into a mode of "excitement fatigue", which led to the momentary lapse of "oh crap" yesterday. Fortunately it did not last long, so in short, the reviews are as expected for me.

Back to waiting!
 

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Track guys are going to have to tweak to get what they want. The rest of us will grin down the highway as we admire our shiny new "improved" interior and laugh gleefully as we sprint up and down the on/off ramps and curl around the mountain bends (or blast down a mid-west straightaway!) This is the car I was waiting for! :clap2::clap2::clap2:
 

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I have determined that months of pent-up desire to actually drive this car have sent me into a mode of "excitement fatigue", which led to the momentary lapse of "oh crap" yesterday. Fortunately it did not last long, so in short, the reviews are as expected for me.

Back to waiting!
+1 I expected to have mine in October when I ordered, and fell for the first run excitement, with full knowlege of the process. I've been over it for a few weeks now, and will keep putting dollar coins in my new tire jar.
Everyone has a new tire jar right?:D
 

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and then when the car didn't turn out to be a sound barrier busting, bullet proof golden eagle fighter jet w/ a soft server ice cream dispenser in the glove box we're all a little let down.
I think, considering Ford didn't seem to interested in improving acceleration, people were expecting a large leap in handling. Specifically enough to best out the 2 year old 1LE which bested the Boss 302 and Boss 302LS. If the acceleration is essentially the same as the S197 and the handling isn't much improved it's tough to find any appeal factor with regards to performance.

People didn't want a sound barrier busting, bullet proof golden eagle fighter jet w/ a soft server ice cream dispenser in the glove box. They just wanted something that could best the 1LE in handling (and it very well could, but these initial reviews don't seem to lead many of us in that direction).

I agree with you, its likely an amazing car. One of the top in its class. But I can understand the concern from the people wondering why they can't match what Chevy put out 2 years prior and are concerned that if it can't how much further will it be behind once the Alpha platform makes its debut.
 

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I think, considering Ford didn't seem to interested in improving acceleration, people were expecting a large leap in handling. Specifically enough to best out the 2 year old 1LE which bested the Boss 302 and Boss 302LS. If the acceleration is essentially the same as the S197 and the handling isn't much improved it's tough to find any appeal factor with regards to performance.

People didn't want a sound barrier busting, bullet proof golden eagle fighter jet w/ a soft server ice cream dispenser in the glove box. They just wanted something that could best the 1LE in handling (and it very well could, but these initial reviews don't seem to lead many of us in that direction).

I agree with you, its likely an amazing car. One of the top in its class. But I can understand the concern from the people wondering why they can't match what Chevy put out 2 years prior and are concerned that if it can't how much further will it be behind once the Alpha platform makes its debut.

Maybe a a good question to ask would be:

Since Chevy has put it's eggs in the high-performance basket [ I'll let those of you with greater expertise in performance carry on that debate ] and purported to have bested the Boss 302; and Ford has put it's eggs in the basket of broader appeal and a huge leap forward in interior materials, comfort and design ( and from what I have seen it was already considerably ahead of Chevy in that department as it was ), will Chevy match the ante and do a materials and comfort upgrade as well? and can they do it within the budgetary restraints that would be required to remain competitive? will they have to make the same trade-offs that clearly faced Ford?

If Ford had wanted, they could have shed a couple of hundred pounds just by adjusting the options. [ and they still might have the ability to boost the performance, just by configuring some models without all the heavy stuff many of us can't live without ].

Ford seems to be taking the "how many units can we move" approach as opposed to the "how many races can we win". I don't know which will ultimately win out, but I do know that I'll be a lot happier and more comfortable in my new Mustang than I would be in a Camero.

Ford may have to do another "Boss" project to claim the performance throne, but I think they have a good base to build on now.
 

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Has anyone who said they are getting a Slo'maro commented why? I haven't seen anything yet. I am interested to see why they have chnged their minds!
 

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Id say I'm between Not Impressed and As Expected. I wasn't expecting it to shoot laser rainbows out the tailpipe, but I thought it would be a little better than has been revealed so far.
 

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Look guys this is an incredible vehicle from an engineering perspective. Don't let the reviews have you dismayed too much, because think about it, the car is being compared to high end European variants in almost all of them. The fact that people casually dropped in into the same sentence as Ferrari etc tells you something about just how advanced and luxurious the new cockpit-themed interior has become.

But the simple fact of the matter is it's still a $36k car (starting point of GT premium model). Should it be able to compete with the m4 in every metric? No, otherwise it would cost $70k base. So give the engineering team credit; they all did their jobs (especially when you consider how hard it must have been to sneak in things like line-lock). It's the marketing guys at fault, so do what the rest of us do, call them a bunch of morons and head over to a dealer :D
Yeah, you pretty much know that if/when they finally give us the danged car a lot of these histrionics are going to disappear in clouds of tire smoke. Like I told a co-worker who ordered a car back in May and has been dying a little bit everyday since, by this time next year people will barely remember what all this fuss was about.

The problem at this point though seems to be that the production / sales dept can't nail down when real folks will be able to get their hands on the car and the self-same bungling marketing dept is having to cover for them soooo . . .
 

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Id say I'm between Not Impressed and As Expected. I wasn't expecting it to shoot laser rainbows out the tailpipe, but I thought it would be a little better than has been revealed so far.
LOL! This is where I fall too. I have, however, calmed down a bit since yesterday. I'll likely still take delivery to have a better overall car to start with. My only concern is that my 2013 with Magnaflow catback, CAI and Eibach suspension probably performs better in a straight line. It handles pretty damn well with the suspension changes too, but there is never going to be a direct comparison made without me doing it myself. At this point, I plan on keeping the order and taking it for a test drive before deciding whether or not to take delivery. As soon as it arrives at the dealership, I'll fly out and bang on it a bit before I make a decision.
 

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To be honest, I'm disappointed. In my heart, I wanted this thing to destroy it's competition in EVERY metric. I was hoping that all the technology and modernization baked into this car would pay off - big. However in my head I knew it would be incrementally better than the previous model - if that.

The thing is, the car is great for what it is and what it costs. My problem is I want an option for more. I want the GT350 now so that it can fill the void. It's not fair to compare the new Mustang to the ZL1 or the Z/28 or the C7 or the M4 but life's not fair. Ford needs a car which can compete albeit at a higher price point.

For the money, the new Mustang is a steal but it's audience is limited by it's lack of higher end options and models. Hurry up with that GT350 Ford!
Everyone is so spoiled and wants MORE MORE MORE nowadays. We are talking about a GT here; it would embarrass a huge majority of past Mustang models including the high performance variants (like my 1997 Cobra that was top of the line at the time with it's 305hp, 300lb torque).

Saying the cost is inline but the market is limited for a GT is far from accurate.

The specialty models (over a GT trim level) have always been a fraction of Mustang sales. We have had several GT500's that sit on the showroom forever and either someone from out of town finds it or it ends up being taken to the auction at a loss. I would say that is the definition of a limited, enthusiast group audience.

Like other's have been saying, many had unreasonably high expectations for the higher volume, more obtainable for the common public GT variant. It's leaps and bounds better in driveability, features, safety, and comfort while still giving slightly better performance and roughly the same comparable price of the outgoing model. I call that a win win.
 

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Everyone is so spoiled and wants MORE MORE MORE nowadays. We are talking about a GT here; it would embarrass a huge majority of past Mustang models including the high performance variants (like my 1997 Cobra that was top of the line at the time with it's 305hp, 300lb torque).

Saying the cost is inline but the market is limited for a GT is far from accurate.

The specialty models (over a GT trim level) have always been a fraction of Mustang sales. We have had several GT500's that sit on the showroom forever and either someone from out of town finds it or it ends up being taken to the auction at a loss. I would say that is the definition of a limited, enthusiast group audience.

Like other's have been saying, many had unreasonably high expectations for the higher volume, more obtainable for the common public GT variant. It's leaps and bounds better in driveability, features, safety, and comfort while still giving slightly better performance and roughly the same comparable price of the outgoing model. I call that a win win.
I'd agree.

One of the things I'd be interested to see would be a head-to-head test w/ a '15 GT PP car vs a '14 GT PP car and then a Boss. What a lot of these initial "first drive" reviews lack is a point of reference and I think a lot of people will be surprised at how much better this new car might be compared to the outgoing car which they just happened to have gotten comfortable w/ and have started to gloss over some of it's deficiencies due to fondness and familiarity.
 

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I'm still excited and still plan on getting one, but now brand new. First I want to see what happens with the GT350 but realistically I will probably end up buying someones 20-40k mi modded GT/GTPP in a few years, or maybe get lucky and get a used GT350. In the meantime I picked up an 06 e46 M3 comp pack manual with 30k miles and I'm _really_ enjoying it. It could use a louder exhaust and about 100 more hp though :) I just bough 245/275 pilot SS's and can't wait to get them on.

I find myself disappointed only with the weight gain. It seems like a lot of people here are focusing on a few negative points in the reviews and missing a lot of the positives. For people who want to mod their cars, I think the s550 is going to be an incredible platform. I really want to drive one for myself.
 

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There were quite a few on here hoping to get close to 4.0 to compete with the new m4. I'm just saying in general there was a lot of hope that the numbers would get better than last year because there was nothing tangible to go off of.

And for what it's worth, more than 1/3rd in the poll listed as the reviews being a let down. I'm just saying, all of this could have been solved if they didn't refuse to give out any numbers when the revealed the car.

M3/4s are hitting low 12s and some mags have gotten as high as 121mph, this is with the manual cars. The DCT cars are 12.1@121mph. Lets face it, it will be a GT350 that competes directly with the M3/4.
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